Plant ID forum: Wych Elm (Ulmus glabra); Pannonian Basin, central Europe

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Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 3, 2015 10:51 AM CST
This Tree is outside my family home, but no one is sure what it is
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
May 3, 2015 11:08 AM CST
It looks like a Viburnum plicatum to me. Doublefile Viburnum

http://www.cirrusimage.com/tree_viburnum_doublefile.htm
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plantladylin
May 3, 2015 11:09 AM CST
It reminds me more of

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Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 3, 2015 11:10 AM CST
leaves look like it, but this is 5m tall tree
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Name: Celia
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Zencat
May 3, 2015 11:18 AM CST
I would like to see clearer pictures of the flowers, stems and leaf arrangement.
Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 3, 2015 11:30 AM CST
This is the last pic I made.
I just got back from there and its 210km away

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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
May 3, 2015 12:18 PM CST

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It's definitely an Elm, but I couldn't say which one. Don't think it's American Elm, though, because the samaras are lacking the little hairs around the edges that are typical of American Elm.
Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 3, 2015 12:28 PM CST
Well, it is in Panonia depression in central Europe and it is very old some 80 years I think
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plantladylin
May 3, 2015 12:39 PM CST
How about White Elm, Ulmus laevis which grows in Europe?

http://www.luontoportti.com/suomi/en/puut/white-elm
http://www.tree-guide.com/european-white-elm

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Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 3, 2015 1:10 PM CST
I dont know... Soil there(I know this for tested fact is very acidic PH around 7) and this colour of thje flowers is light champagne
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bamira
May 3, 2015 1:55 PM CST
endemit GB Ulmus procera
https://www.google.cz/search?q=ulmus+procera&biw=1366&bih=65...

Central and South Europe Ulmua glabra, minor, canescens, laevis
https://www.google.cz/search?q=ulmus+glabra+pendula&biw=1366...
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sooby
May 3, 2015 2:23 PM CST
Makanudo said:I dont know... Soil there(I know this for tested fact is very acidic PH around 7) and this colour of thje flowers is light champagne


Can't add anything for ID other than that I agree it looks like an elm - I just wanted to note that pH 7 is neutral, it is not acidic.

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Makanudo
May 4, 2015 12:20 AM CST
sooby said:

Can't add anything for ID other than that I agree it looks like an elm - I just wanted to note that pH 7 is neutral, it is not acidic.


You are right and I apologise. I am not versed in this area. I just checked and they said PH there in the soil is above 8 and the soil is rich in phosphor

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Name: carolyn keiper
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clkeiper
May 4, 2015 6:01 AM CST
I think you have two different plants in the photo. The leaves look like elm leaves, but the flowers? not enough information to tell for sure.
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KentPfeiffer
May 4, 2015 6:14 AM CST

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I may not be seeing what I think I'm seeing, but I don't see any flowers in the pictures. There are dense clusters of what appear to be samaras (the winged seedpods produced by elms), but no flowers.
Name: Celia
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Zencat
May 4, 2015 6:53 AM CST
Kentn your eyes are better than mine. I kept seeing spent flowers but I see the seeds now.
Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 4, 2015 8:18 AM CST
Here are couple of photos made just now by a phone and sent to me.
Photos I posted yesterday and earlier today are from yesterday and the ones I am posting now are todays.
Flowers or samaras have changed colour in a day they look light brown now
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Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 4, 2015 8:58 AM CST
latest photos.
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"Keep a green tree in your hart, and perhaps a singing bird will come."
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Name: Celia
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Zencat
May 4, 2015 9:15 AM CST
Those seeds are going to blow around in drifts soon.
Name: Milan
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Makanudo
May 4, 2015 9:18 AM CST
sure looks like they will..
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