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Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
May 12, 2015 8:54 PM CST
Good grief, Dora, that's a lot of work! I'm too lazy to grow dahlias or gladiolas because they have to be pulled up and thrown in a box each winter, but what you have to do is over the top!
Where I am in south-central Kansas, St. Patrick is a fairly tender rose. I know people who grow it in a pot and bring that pot into their garage each winter. If I know a rose is a tender one, I will mulch it heavily in the winter, but that's all. (I don't grow St. Patrick) If it makes it, great. If not, I learned something, and I have an opportunity to buy a new rose for that spot.
Potting and un-potting is too much work for me. I plant them well, water them, prune them if they need it, and maybe mulch in the winter. That's it. No spraying, no babying. I have over 300 roses and lots of other plants and I work full time, so that's all the care they get, and I think they look great. Especially considering our harsh climate out here.
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Name: Dora
Calgary (Zone 3a)
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dorab
May 13, 2015 12:22 PM CST
If I had 300 roses I probably wouldn't do it either. Most of the ones that are in the ground are zone 3. I cover my zone 4's but I know people who don't and their roses usually survive, but mine are a bit farther from the house.

Thanks for giving my process a name Lynn, although the writer seemed to be more organized than I am. Sometimes I have trouble finding them again in the spring.
Dora
Name: Alex Junge
MN st paul, (Zone 4a)
Plantsmylove
May 17, 2015 11:20 AM CST
I just get own root roses that will survive our harsh zone 4 winters.

Austrain copper and a wild species I cant think off the top of my head , does really well hardy to zone 3 so should be fine. I high reccomand a book if you can pay the price, Growing roses in cold climates. They sell it on amazon.
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
May 17, 2015 12:47 PM CST
Another excellent book was written by Bob Osborne, the owner of Corn Hill Nursery, a Canadian nursery, Hardy Roses: An Organic Guide to Growing Frost- and Disease-Resistant Varieties. Also sold by Amazon.

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Lyn
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Name: Dora
Calgary (Zone 3a)
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dorab
May 18, 2015 9:13 AM CST
I have hardy roses as well; the hybrid teas are just for variety and in case I ever want to enter the rose show, although they never seem to be blooming at that time.

The new hardy rose this year is Prairie Snowdrift. I just put it in the ground this weekend.
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Zone 4 roses are sometimes able to survive if covered so I also put them in the ground. I might try again at some time, but my space is very limited and I prefer to put plants in the ground that I know are going to survive. The others go in pots. I try to avoid paying more than $5 for a hybrid tea.

Thanks for the book suggestions. Since we're on the subject, I might as well give the Calgary Rose Society a plug – their book has gone into its second printing and is available on their website.


Dora
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
May 18, 2015 9:32 AM CST
Dora ...

One of the things I liked about Osborn's book is that in one section he described the cellular activity of how a plant goes dormant which I found quite interesting.

I do wish I had studied horticulture back in the day, but I didn't know I would like it so much.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Name: Dora
Calgary (Zone 3a)
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dorab
May 18, 2015 12:27 PM CST
The things we learn about ourselves, hmm?
Fortunately when you do it for fun, it stays fun.
How did you start gardening?
Dora
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
May 18, 2015 3:36 PM CST
Dora ....

I had just gotten out of a month's stay in the hospital for pneumonia and needed something to make me get out of bed and get on with life. I decided to grow plants in containers because I lived in a condo and whatever I planted would die without care. I had to get out of bed. It was a first step.

I visited a miniature rose nursery and potted up several roses and thus began my passion for roses.

How did you get started ?

Smiles,
Lyn
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Name: Alex Junge
MN st paul, (Zone 4a)
Plantsmylove
May 18, 2015 4:20 PM CST
Not to interroupt but I got started when I thought about my biological mom, she died when I was 12/ she loved roses. her name was naturally, Rose.

Rose labellie Junge. I planted a rose bush in honor of her and I'm going to do something that would make her proud/ get it to bloom.


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Name: Dora
Calgary (Zone 3a)
Lilies Clematis Bulbs Seed Starter Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: Canadian
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dorab
May 18, 2015 7:03 PM CST
My mother was part of my reason for growing roses as well - she loved them and could never grow them successfully in zone 1.

I also started with a container garden and miniature roses. I have a friend who is a master gardener, and she used to always invite me out to the horticultural show. I used to buy miniature roses from the rose society every year, and still do when they are available.

I might take clippings this year to start indoors over the winter, because the rose society no longer has a supplier for its miniature roses, although that might change by next year of course.
Dora

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