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May 11, 2015 5:28 AM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Okay, since no one has seen this question in the Amaryllis forum, I thought what the heck, I'll ask here :p

So, I just bought two Hymenocallis harrisiana bulbs online. At the moment I have three H. festalis growing, but they weren't exactly what I had in mind (though they're lovely in their own right), so that's why and I wanted to have one as soon as I saw one of them.
Does anyone else have this plant and what recommendations can you give me? Perhaps some photos of yours. Would appreciate it!

Update: I also ordered some H. littoralis from Himalayan Gardens Ltd in the UK (impossible to get around here...) So any tips with those are welcome aswell Hurray!
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May 11, 2015 11:22 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I was given a few of these plants three or maybe four years ago, the small one was small, and the bulb was cut in half almost when I planted it. The larger one was a nice large plant and had a full healthy bulb, it has grown and multiplied quite nicely. I was told it was a Peruvian Daffodil by the person who gave it to me, and that is what I always think of it as being. Mine blooms in July, so it will be a while before I see blooms this year. I don't do anything really special for it, it is planted in the ground and receives no special care. I water it occasionally when things get really dry along with the other plants.
My large clump:
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My small plant:
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Showing some amaryllis next to it for comparison:
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Showing the base and the increases:
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The blooms from last July:
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I just realized both the one you have and the one you ordered are both called Peruvian Daffodil, so now I have to determine which one I actually have.
Well, they all look and sound alike to me, so I'll just call mine Peruvian Daffodil.
Finally found a site that says Hymenocallis harrisiana, is a deciduous species, and mine stays green all year and never sheds it leaves. So best I can tell mine is actually Peruvian Daffodil (Ismene x deflexa).
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May 11, 2015 2:26 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Isn't Hymenocallis (ismene) x festalis called peruvian daffodil since it actually looks like a daffodil? I thought all the other Hymenocallises were called spider lilies.

Anyway, I now have two species and one hybrid: H. harrisiana, H. littoralis and H. x festalis.

What kind of conditions do yours grow in Seedfork?
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May 11, 2015 2:36 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Spider lily, or daffodil? There seems to be a whole lot of confusion about that.
Mine grow in shade, under oak trees, they grown along with ferns, hostas, amaryllis and mine have lived though freezes down in the teens F. and ninety plus in the summer. It requires about the least care of any plant I grow.
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May 11, 2015 5:51 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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I too have heard them called both Spider lily and daffodil. I have some growing in two areas of my yard, but unfortunately other than knowing they are Hymenocallis, I have no idea if they are species or hybrid. I would imagine at this point they are hybrids...three different sources all planted together and in "conjugal harmony" for the last 14 years. Whistling

One group is in full sun all day., the other gets sun from sunrise til just past mid-day. Both groups are 36 inches tall, 3 to 4 inch wide leaves and they bloom in June for an extended period and then again though really sporadically at the end of summer. These images are from last year.
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May 12, 2015 5:10 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Region: Belgium Composter Region: Europe Ferns Hostas Irises
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Well, this is one of my H. festalis: one about to bloom
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May 12, 2015 5:24 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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The bloom should be lovely. From pictures I have seen, the flowers are quite fancy...

http://photos.plantes-et-jardi...
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May 14, 2015 9:38 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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I do not have your other Hymenocallis cultivar but I have, H. festalis, loves as much sun as it can get. I get my blooms in June or July. Needs lots of watering here to really coax it to push that bloomstalk out. Our area too is very dry, so I have learned to really give it stepped up watering once I see the new leaves show. The area it is in gets part sun and part shade, since we get the shade of city trees, so the stalk really grows very tall, trying to get as much sun it can get.

Right now it is on leafing stage..hopefully next week when our temps returns to the usual warmer level, it will try to grow the bloomstalks as well. I have planted this in a larger container since the bulbs are quite big.
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May 19, 2015 7:16 AM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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My first flower of the year! So excited ^^
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May 19, 2015 8:16 AM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Hurray! That is lovely.
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May 19, 2015 11:15 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Good growing! Looks so pretty! Lovey dubby
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May 23, 2015 2:07 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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My second flower opened yesterday ^^ God I love that smell.
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May 23, 2015 7:10 PM CST
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Beautiful...
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May 24, 2015 7:38 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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This is the only one I ever had and loved it.
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May 24, 2015 8:41 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I don't think I have ever noiticed any scent from mine, I will have to pay more attention when it blooms.
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May 24, 2015 9:21 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Good growing Arico!
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May 24, 2015 1:09 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Region: Belgium Composter Region: Europe Ferns Hostas Irises
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Seedfork said:I don't think I have ever noiticed any scent from mine, I will have to pay more attention when it blooms.


It's quite subtle indeed. The scent to me is like a blend of lemon and vanilla *heaven*
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May 26, 2015 3:19 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Region: Belgium Composter Region: Europe Ferns Hostas Irises
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I'll ask here too. My other Hymenocallis bulbs are - after a week in the ground - showing fungal spots. It's mainly on the old roots and basal plate. The bulbs themselves feel firm. What can I do about it? Pot them up in a mixture of mostly sharp sand? Indoors? I don't want to loose them; I've gone through so much trouble to find these.
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May 26, 2015 3:24 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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That does not look good! Maybe treat with a fungicide, and provide better drainage, and replant in a different area, a fungus can stay active in the soil for a long time.
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May 26, 2015 3:51 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Region: Belgium Composter Region: Europe Ferns Hostas Irises
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There are so many different fungicides for all kinds of fungi. I guess my best bet is one against root rot? And after that plant in sharp sand with SOME compost for them to draw nutrients from or (no compost at all and) go with a liquid feed until they've grown a bit?

Also should i cut the old roots off?
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