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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Jun 26, 2015 7:09 AM CST
I totally agree with Ken, Wayne -- looks great !
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Weedwhacker
Jul 27, 2015 7:10 AM CST
I dug all of my garlic on Friday (7/24/15); overall happy with the size of the bulbs, although I don't see a great deal of difference as a result of selecting the largest cloves to plant and spacing the plants farther apart than I've done in the past. This year I'll take some actual measurements, weight and circumference of the bulbs, to compare to next year. At any rate, I think I'll have more than enough garlic for my purposes! I planted about 140 cloves altogether, back on October 26th; this year I want to get them in by the beginning of October, if I have some space freed up in the garden.

Ajo Rojo (a Creole type)


Mixture of Polish Softneck and Western Rose (I can't remember why I didn't keep these separate when I first started growing them!)
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Music (a Porcelain type of hardneck)


An unidentified hardneck type, given to me by a friend years ago and the first type of garlic that I ever successfully grew.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Jul 27, 2015 7:33 AM CST
Looks good, Sandy. There is probably no practical way of knowing whether large cloves equals large bulbs. You could have segregated plots as far as spacing though. When I started growing garlic I spaced my cloves way too far apart. I think I spaced them at 5" centers. Over the years I have closed that spacing and last year I spaced them at 3" centers. I think I will go for 2" centers this fall. I haven't seen any difference as far as bulb size, narrowing that spacing. For me at least, having too much rain during the 3-4 final weeks, caused lower yields (smaller bulbs). I think a cool spring also contributed to lower yields as well. I agree, you should be planting your garlic a few weeks earlier.
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Weedwhacker
Jul 27, 2015 9:49 AM CST
Ken, that is actually funny that you have been decreasing your spacing because you didn't see any difference... I've always planted mine about 3" apart, but read (on the internet, so it HAS to be true, right? Rolling on the floor laughing ) that it should be planted at least 6" apart to produce large bulbs.. Rolling my eyes. If you haven't noticed a difference, then I think I will go back to 3-4" and save the space!
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer /
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Jul 27, 2015 10:20 AM CST
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Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Jul 27, 2015 11:36 AM CST
Ken, please remind me how deeply you plant your toes. Uh, of garlic. Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Jul 27, 2015 12:10 PM CST
I chuckle every time I see cloves called "toes". Whistling

I plant my cloves about 2" deep, Mary. However, our ground never freezes. You might want to check with your Extension Service about planting in Anchorage, particularly if your soil does freeze several inches below the service.
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Weedwhacker
Jul 27, 2015 12:28 PM CST
drdawg said:I chuckle every time I see cloves called "toes". Whistling

I plant my cloves about 2" deep, Mary. However, our ground never freezes. You might want to check with your Extension Service about planting in Anchorage, particularly if your soil does freeze several inches below the service.


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Sorry, Ken, I just couldn't help myself... a couple of winters ago the ground here froze down to 6 feet ! nodding
I do realize that's hard for you dyed-in-the-wool southerners to comprehend, though -- sometimes I find it a bit hard to comprehend myself!

Mary, I plant mine about 4" deep, but I think Ken's suggestion to check with the Extension Service or something of the sort is a very good one Thumbs up

“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer /
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Tropical Plants & More
Orchids Greenhouse Vegetable Grower Ferns Region: United States of America Hummingbirder
Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Jul 27, 2015 12:45 PM CST
I cannot imagine dealing with several feet of frozen ground. I don't know how your pipes, above and below ground survive the winters.
drdawg (Ken Ramsey) - Tropical Plants & More
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I don't have gray hair, I have wisdom-highlights. I must be very wise.
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Weedwhacker
Jul 27, 2015 12:54 PM CST
The outside pipes are pretty deep... we're on our township water system and about 10 years ago had to replace the pipe from the main at the road to our house; the contractor put it down in a ditch that was over 6' deep, so we haven't had any problems with it. There are always LOTS of frozen and broken water pipes up here, though -- often the water depts will have the customers keep the water running (they always say "in a stream the size of a pencil") so that it won't freeze. The snowbirds that leave their house to head south in the winter generally have all the water shut off and the pipes drained, antifreeze in the toilets and traps, etc etc.

Always seems pretty miraculous to me that any kinds of plants can survive, to say nothing of the songbirds and the animals out in the woods Blinking
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