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May 28, 2015 6:11 PM CST
Name: Jason
Connecticut (Zone 5b)
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Looking for any coneflower seeds that I don't have, what I do have are...

Cheyenne spirit yellow/gold only (have seeds)
sombrero sandy yellow (have seeds) & flamenco orange (no seeds, will have in fall)
powwow wild berry & white (have seeds of both)
firebird (no seeds, will have in fall)
sunset (no seeds, will have in fall)

Thanks!
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May 29, 2015 8:12 AM CST
Name: Duane
Redmond OR (Zone 5a)
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Just a FYI---most cone flower seeds don't come true. Sighing!
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May 29, 2015 5:04 PM CST
Name: Jason
Connecticut (Zone 5b)
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duane456 said:Just a FYI---most cone flower seeds don't come true. Sighing!


yeah i've heard some mixed reviews on that, i'm just growing a bunch for the first time so I have yet to see what flowers are produced, do you have personal experience with any particular variety not coming true? thanks
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Jun 26, 2015 6:44 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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I have heard that Pow wow wild berry . White Swan , and Purple (the native ) are about all that breed true , (exception are a couple of annuals .
I have a real slow growing Milkshake that the Double blooms did not even come true from cuttings ( how bad is that ?) Shrug!
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Jun 26, 2015 9:43 PM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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ok, how could a plant not come true from cuttings ?!
Confused
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Jun 26, 2015 11:25 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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That is a question i have no idea of how to answer , only that it happened , Frillylily I am more confused than you . Confused Confused Confused
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Jun 27, 2015 12:53 PM CST
Name: Duane
Redmond OR (Zone 5a)
Life began in a garden.
I helped beta test the first seed swap Winter Sowing Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Salvias Hummingbirder
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I thought we were talking about seeds , not cuttings.
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Jun 27, 2015 1:30 PM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier
well the OP was asking about seeds, and it was pointed out that seeds do not come true many times. So then the fix may be to use cuttings of plants you already have to get more plants and that way you would know they would be the same kind/quality. But then it was pointed out that cuttings do not always perform true to the parent plant. So the question here is--how does one get more plants of the same kind and quality without buying pricey seeds or flat out having to buy the plant again?
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Jun 27, 2015 9:56 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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I suppose the experience of trial and error , shows why here ,, Grafting , cell pressing , cross pollinating , all show why , some Echinacea (Coneflower lovers , have gone through the time to learn how ,
I have done of my efforts a double purple before , lived about 4 years , and some off color shades from seeds .
As for seeds , Milkshake (seed does not come true or will be Sterile , ? seed luck ) Purple (native )
And perhaps White Swan ( as the season ends I will usually have ,
My Coneflowers are only beginning to bloom ,
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Jul 3, 2015 7:10 PM CST
Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
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Every coneflower I have came from seed bought online save the original purple. If they don't come true from seed how can they sell them? Thanks
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Jul 3, 2015 7:28 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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They (producers) know the pollinating or Hybridization techniques required for the variety , Sometimes even seeds you buy from producers have variations of the variety being purchased ,
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Jul 3, 2015 7:49 PM CST
Name: JoJo
Texas (Zone 8b)
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I'm glad they have for me, most nurseries just sale one or two, maybe 3
Thanks
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