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May 31, 2015 1:47 PM CST

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I'm not convinced about the proper classification of these peonies
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identifies the someone is? Confused
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May 31, 2015 2:45 PM CST
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I seems like I make a lot of errors that you find. The peony has been in the garden of a friend for 20+ years. He bought it from either Khelms or Wayside with that ID. To satisfy your mind I will delete the pictures later when I have more time as I am fixing Sunday Dinner for my family right now. I think I will limit making additions to the data base as so many are incorrect....... Incidentaly you might want to contact google and let them know their info. is questionable. There are a number of my pictures there.......
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May 31, 2015 9:42 PM CST
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Where are they in the database, Stefan? What's the name of the entry? A lot of rockii peonies are mislabeled because people tend to think that all tree peonies are P. x suffruticosa.
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May 31, 2015 9:52 PM CST
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It seems as if Stefan is questioning if the peonies are properly classified, not stating positively that they are not. Even if they are not it seems when and if the proper classification is arrived at, the photos should not be deleted but moved to the proper place. Paul takes great photos!
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May 31, 2015 9:55 PM CST
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Yes, I agree. I would always rather move photos than delete them, but at this point I don't even know whether they were classified properly because I don't know where they were posted.
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May 31, 2015 10:54 PM CST
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I've tracked down these photos. They're Paeonia rockii 'Joseph Rock,' and Paul has submitted his photos to the correct entry. There's no reason to move them or delete them, @Paul2032.

Rockii Hybrid Tree Peony (Paeonia 'Rock's Variety')

I believe Stefan was questioning the name, and not the location of the photos. P. rockii and P. x suffruticosa are both accepted species names. There was once a Paeonia x suffruticosa subsp. rockii, but it was reclassified as a synonym of Paeonia rockii subsp. rockii long ago.

Does that answer your questions, @bamira?
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Jun 1, 2015 2:45 AM CST

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I agree that Paul has nice pictures Thumbs up
I don't want to delete, Paul is, wants to remove. Paul must write why it wants to remove.
I'm questioning the correct classification. I'm looking for someone who is able to identify and describe characters spec. or cultivar.
I did not put the name of the only the name of the group.

Zuzu - I've tracked down these photos. They're Paeonia rockii 'Joseph Rock,' and Paul has submitted his photos to the correct entry. There's no reason to move them or delete them - Why do you think that they are right?
According to which characters you are convinced that it is properly ?

partly you revealed where the pictures are located, for accuracy, there are other I tip my hat to you.
Tree Peony (Paeonia 'Ezra Pound')


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Jun 1, 2015 2:23 PM CST
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I have to admit that I'm not a peony expert, but I do know that the rockii peonies all have purple blotches in the center, which is not true of P. x suffruticosa. I also know that the name "Joseph Rock" has been misapplied to other peonies by nurseries, but Paul's photos look authentic to me. That's why I think they're in the right place. More to the point, why do you think they're in the wrong place, and where would you put them?
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