Plant ID forum: African Blood Lily (Scadoxus multiflorus); offshoot

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Name: Lin Vosbury
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plantladylin
Jun 7, 2015 6:24 PM CST
I wonder, could it be a variety of Lily of the Valley?

Lily of the Valley (Convallaria majalis 'Variegata')
Striped Lily of the Valley (Convallaria majalis 'Albostriata')

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Name: Ginger
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gingin
Jun 8, 2015 11:08 AM CST
Shrug! That would be cool, but I doubt it since I don't think I get cold enough...plus it lives in the GH over winter because I was told to over winter the others in the GH.
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gingin
Jun 10, 2015 9:57 AM CST
A few more pictures with a bottle of water next to the mystery plant and a shot of it's polka dots.
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bamira
Jun 10, 2015 10:17 AM CST
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Jun 10, 2015 10:43 AM CST
TY for the follow-up pics, Ginger! IDK what that is, besides, "not Callisia."
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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 10, 2015 11:00 AM CST
OK... Mystery solved!

That's an offshoot of the Blood Lily. I just went out and checked mine. Same spots. Plus look at the stem next to it. Same spots, just more faded.

The variegation looks almost gone. A nutrient issue? Depending on the plant, some show better variegation with more shade (eg. Hosta), others show brighter variegation with more sun (eg. Hibiscus). Is this getting more sun than previously?

Regardless, you definitely want to keep track of this one. When it gets bigger, definitely give it it's own pot, with great soil! If it maintains it's variegation, I'll be first in line for an offshoot from it!
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Name: Lin Vosbury
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plantladylin
Jun 10, 2015 11:05 AM CST
Hurray! Ron! Thumbs up

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gingin
Jun 10, 2015 11:38 AM CST
Alrighty then nodding Not sure how to answer the sun question...pot is in the same place as it always is when not in the GH. The varigation is still very much there it just didn't show up that well in the latest pictures. How much longer do you reckon, Ron, before I dig it up and give it a home of it's own?
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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 10, 2015 12:01 PM CST
Ginger, that's a judgement call. It's in competition with the other plants in a crowded pot, but is also likely being nurtured by the mother plant.

"Probably" you should wait until the foliage dies back, then dig up the bulb. Personally, I couldn't wait that long. It's growing pretty fast. I'd give it another three or four weeks then dig up and repot into a quality mix and give it lot's of TLC.

But that's me. I really don't know the best time to separate an offshoot from it's mother plant. The succulent runner connection between them probably dries up and dies naturally when the foliage dies back in the fall. If the planting situation was more spacious in good soil, I'd definitely wait. But in a crowded container...?
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gingin
Jun 10, 2015 12:34 PM CST
guess I'll mark the calander for July sometime. Thanks I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 10, 2015 1:10 PM CST
About the offshoot getting more sun:

Since the new plant has grown so much, it may no longer be shaded by the other plants. Also, if you've rotated the pot, the plant could be more exposed to the sun.

If the variegation is still as strong as in the first picture, maybe sun really isn't a factor.
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gingin
Jun 10, 2015 2:07 PM CST
Took this picture just a bit ago...shows the varigation still there
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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 10, 2015 2:34 PM CST
Excellent.

And with the way it's growing, it's obviously getting fed by the mother plant, so I can't imagine the variegation is from a nutritional deficit. Not to mention the pattern doesn't even LOOK like a nutritional problem.

I had googled "variegated Scadoxus" and "variegated Blood Lily" earlier on, but found none. Looks like you really have something special there!

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Name: Lin Vosbury
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plantladylin
Jun 10, 2015 2:36 PM CST
My eyes aren't really good but the Scadoxus puniceus 'Natalensis' at the bottom of this page looks like it might have the variegated foliage: http://www.pacificbulbsociety....

and this one: http://www.sprig.co.za/2010/01...

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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 10, 2015 3:00 PM CST
I don't think either of those are variegated, Lin. The first one, in particular, looks like it is. I had seen that photo before, and even with blowing it up it looks like it COULD be variegated. But there is no mention of variegation in the copy with the photo, and the color differences are very broad, not highly variable in thickness as with Ginger's photo.

Truth is, I blew up a number of photos to a much larger size to get a better look because at first glance they looked like they could be variegated. The issue, I guess, is that the leaves are broadly ribbed, so photographic highlights are difficult to avoid.

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plantladylin
Jun 10, 2015 3:05 PM CST
I hope Ginger gets a bloom on that plant in the near future ... it sure is interesting; the leaves are pretty themselves but I bet the flower is going to make it even prettier.
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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 10, 2015 3:20 PM CST
Lin, I want to see it bloom as well. I'm anxious to see if the variegation manifests in the flower head.

It won't be this year, however. As with Amaryllis, buds form during the dormant season.

But if the plant is well-grown this year (and it's clearly well on it's way), There is a good chance it will bloom next year.

So, Ginger, please take and post pictures! I'd also like to see photos this year with the plant in it's own pot.
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Name: Ginger
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gingin
Jun 11, 2015 12:48 PM CST
OK now all ya'll are making me rather nervous Blinking Blinking Sure hope I don't take of and love it to death....perhaps I should just pretend it's not there and all will be right with it's world Shrug! not too difficult right now as it is still pretty much hidden by the others in the pot. Darn, Ron....you just had to say "Something special" Sighing! Can you say road trip?? come and get it Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Name: greene
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greene
Jun 11, 2015 1:43 PM CST
Woo-hoo!! gingin, 'road trip'!! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Remember, I still owe you a visit. Rolling on the floor laughing

I think if you continue to ignore it the plant will get along just fine
If not, just holler and I'm sure someone will come get it. Thumbs up

I'm kind of wondering if the variegation/stripe/whatever is just showing because it's a juvenile and the color will become 'normal' as the plant gets a bit older?
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Name: Ron
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rattlebox
Jun 11, 2015 8:37 PM CST
Greene, I have never seen the slightest hint of variegation in any of the plantlets that have developed around the mother bulbs in my yard, so I don't think that's it. Of course, circumstances alter cases, so I guess time will tell. Hopefully the variegation is in fact permanent.

Ginger, as much as I'd love to have that plant, I wouldn't take it from you. I couldn't deprive you of the experience of growing it out. Fortunately, Blood Lilies are easy and sturdy plants. For the best plant, just give it rich, moisture-retentive but well-drained soil and bright light. They can handle a lot of sun, but should probably be protected from the hot afternoon sun.

I have full faith you'll be a proper plant-parent to this discovery.
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