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Jun 3, 2015 3:02 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
I've never noticed this one before. Prox 1/2" long. Didn't try to touch it, but the wings look more like a moth, though the head section looked more like a beetle that would have a hard wing structure. Any ideas? Good or bad?
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Jun 4, 2015 9:23 PM CST
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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Painted Lichen Moth(Hypoprepia fucosa) is the most likely candidate or the Scarlet Lichen Moth.
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Jun 5, 2015 7:18 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
@HamiltonSquare Thanks Leslieray. I can't tell Hypoprepia fucosa and Hypoprepia miniata apart when looking at net photos. I think the difference must be very minor. The one in my photo is sure to be one or the other. Says the larva feeds on lichens, preferably growing on pines. No pines here, so I guess it either flew a long way or was raised on oak tree lichens. I'd just never seen one before.
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Jun 5, 2015 9:23 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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At first I thought the difference is in the shape of the wings, but I'm finding both rounded and more pointed wing tips for both. The colour could be a clue too but that might not be so reliable.

http://bugguide.net/node/view/...

http://www.butterfliesandmoths...

http://bugguide.net/node/view/...

http://www.butterfliesandmoths...

There is a suggestion the colour of the head is the difference, but that's not certain.

https://www4.uwm.edu/fieldstat...

The mothphotographersgroup shows a pale head in all examples of Hypoprepia fucosa ..

http://mothphotographersgroup....

But, that's not the case for Hypoprepia miniata!

http://mothphotographersgroup....

Bugguide states "H. fucosa (Painted Lichen Moth), forewing has extensive yellow"

http://bugguide.net/node/view/...

Discussion on the topic, look at the reply from maractwin (actually gcwarbler, the poster's name is at the bottom). It seems almost impossible to separate them, often it comes down to the genitalia.

http://www.inaturalist.org/obs...
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Jun 5, 2015 9:44 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
The discussion indicates they might someday be consolidated as the same thing. Interesting about all the links is that my particular area of Texas is not included on the ranges. That may explain why I haven't seen one before now.
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