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Name: Annette
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Cem9165
Jun 23, 2015 11:59 AM CST
I planted several Allium Schubertii bulbs last fall, and they've produced beautiful seed heads once they were done blooming. Can these plants be grown from seed, and If so how long will they take to bloom?

The title of this post should say Schubertii, not Christophii, Sorry!
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jun 23, 2015 12:19 PM CST
I don't see why not and you really should give it a try, no harm in trying and you might end up with additional beautiful Alliums! Star of Persia (Allium cristophii) is a lovely plant!

I googled and found this about sowing seeds: http://www.plant-world-seeds.c...

And, here it says propagate from seed in spring: http://www.finegardening.com/s...
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Name: Annette
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Cem9165
Jun 23, 2015 12:25 PM CST
Thanks for the links Lin I tip my hat to you. I will save the seeds, and try winter sowing them since they seem to need chill time. The link also had similar information about shcubertii. I really appreciate the information.

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Name: Lin
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Jun 23, 2015 1:08 PM CST
I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Jun 23, 2015 8:00 PM CST
Hi Anette. Great question!

Our plant database says this:

Propagation: Seeds: Sow in situ or Start indoors
Propagation: Other methods: Bulbs

Ornamental Onion (Allium schubertii)

So presumably you CAN get seeds to germinate.

Maybe some of the 11 ATP members who have the plant would talk about whether they ever tried to germinate seeds and how true to the parents the offspring were.
http://garden.org/lists/plant/...

I don't see "F1" anywhere, or any cultivar names, so presumably it is just the species and ought to come as true to the parents as any plant would that hasn't been inbred for generations.

I found this in "hortipedia":
The plants prefer a sunny situation on dry to moderately moist soil. The substrate should be sandy-loamy, gritty-loamy or sandy clay soil. They tolerate temperatures down to -18°C (USDA zone 7).





Name: Annette
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Cem9165
Jun 23, 2015 10:14 PM CST
Rick,

Thank you for such a detailed answer. I greatly appreciate the information that you have shared.

I've grown alliums from bulbs, but I look forward to seeing if I can get them to grow from seed.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jun 23, 2015 10:53 PM CST
A. christophii reseeds like crazy for me, I don't do anything, they just show up. I also have one A. schubertii and I haven't seen a seedling yet. But go ahead and plant them anyway, I would think they would grow. The seeds may need to be covered with soil.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 26, 2017 1:32 PM CST
Annette, was your seed experiment successful? I am curious to know how it turned out.
Also, would any one know how long it takes from germination to blooming for A. schubertii? I would love to give this a try. Mine bloomed for the first time this year. I got it last year.

When would be the best time for transplanting bulbs?
Name: Annette
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Cem9165
Jun 28, 2017 3:31 AM CST
Hi Lynn,

I did not plant the seeds in 2015, the original bulbs planted continue to flower each year. I removed this years seed heads yesterday, and may try to plant some this fall.

I usually plant/transplant my bulbs in the fall.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 28, 2017 9:51 AM CST
Thank you for the information Annette, it is helpful. I want to move mine to a different location, so will wait until fall.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Aug 28, 2017 11:39 AM CST
I harvested the seed today. They look large and healthy. I'm going to try planting some now, and save some until spring.
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jmorth
Aug 30, 2017 11:42 AM CST
I think most A. schubertii on the market are grown in Israel.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Aug 30, 2017 5:18 PM CST
We have a local nursery that grows them from seed, Dancing Oaks Nursery outside Monmouth, Oregon.

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