Roses forum: July 2015, Photos and Chat

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Name: Zuzu
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Jul 2, 2015 10:26 PM CST

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The thumbnail photo for this month is Fourth of July, of course. Smiling

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MargieNY
Jul 3, 2015 12:02 AM CST
Here are some recent photos from my garden. The names of the roses are labeled on the photos at the bottom of each pic.










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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jul 3, 2015 12:27 AM CST

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This is why I am so happy to have Brass Band again, it's so photogenic!
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MargieNY
Jul 3, 2015 12:46 AM CST
Brass Band certainly is a beauty.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jul 3, 2015 1:02 AM CST

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Beautiful photos Margie! I recognized Betty Boop and Cinco de Mayo before even enlarging the images. nodding
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MargieNY
Jul 3, 2015 9:39 AM CST
Calif_Sue said:Beautiful photos Margie! I recognized Betty Boop and Cinco de Mayo before even enlarging the images. nodding


Boop - oop - a - doop!

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JulieB
Jul 4, 2015 7:52 PM CST
Happy July! Happy Fourth! Happy Roses!

Love seeing all your gorgeous roses!


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MargieNY
Jul 4, 2015 11:04 PM CST
Happy 4th of July everyone! Here's a few more photos. The last photo is Eliza.
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Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Jul 6, 2015 6:44 PM CST
Rose spraying day today again. It went quickly as the roses were cut down short again after the big spring flush.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jul 9, 2015 10:31 AM CST

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Gorgeous blooms Margie! My Golden Fairy Tale is still quite small, can hardly wait to see blooms like that.

Lots of rebloom going on here:

The always lovely Helen Hayes
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Heaven on Earth
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Pure Poetry
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Graham Thomas
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South Africa
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Tradescant
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Jerry Jennings
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William Shakespeare 2000
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Finishing up the chicken coop, hubby is doing such a fabulous job with it, best looking coop ever!! Lovey dubby Added two new day old babies to the extended brooder yesterday. We'll open up the partition between the brooders to join them to the 3 week old ones in a few days. The 'doggie TV' remains popular. nodding (enlarge to see doggie #2, those are plexiglass windows)
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Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Jul 9, 2015 11:52 AM CST
Love the chicks and the doggie TV! Big Grin
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MargieNY
Jul 9, 2015 7:27 PM CST
Sue - your little peeps and pups are adorable. Beautiful photos - I am attracted to Helen Hayes too. Neal sent in some really excellent photos of Golden Fairy Tale recently.
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MargieNY
Jul 9, 2015 7:36 PM CST
Here's some more photos. I am very happy I added Hot Chocolate, Koko Loco and Laguna to my garden this Spring.



























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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 10, 2015 1:13 AM CST

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Margie, I love these photos, especially Munstead Wood, but are you sure you have Hot Chocolate? It looks more like Hot Cocoa.

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MargieNY
Jul 10, 2015 12:04 PM CST
"sure" ...??? I received Hot Chocolate from Burlington Rose Nursery this Spring. I was told this rose is similar to Smoky which was/is out of stock. According to her Spring availability catalog she does not offer Hot Cocoa. I have to agree with you that it does look a lot like Hot Cocoa but I believe there may be a difference. I don't know all the rose lingo - so you will have to bear with me. Here's 2 pics - 1 of Hot Chocolate and 1 of Hot Cocoa as they are begin to bloom (open up). If you look at the lower petals you can see the colors differ. I tried to match the text writing with the darkest part of each rose. The lower petals on Hot Chocolate is more uniform in color. The lower petals on Hot Cocoa are more blotchy. It's not until Hot Cocoa opens up more (matures) that the color becomes more saturated. You may see this better in the photos on the database. I am not 100% positive about this, however, as I recall, the petals on Hot Cocoa are thinner. The petals on Hot Chocolate are more substantial - thicker. Both leaves appear shiny. Although Hot Chocolate's leaves appear a lighter green in color. Keep in mind the plant may require more nitrogen or iron??? These are my present observations. If my observations change I will update. As I said previously, "I have to agree with you that it does look a lot like Hot Cocoa."
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 10, 2015 1:01 PM CST

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If it's from Burling, you're probably right. I think she's the only one on this continent who sells Hot Chocolate, and I trust her completely to name her roses correctly, alhough Hot Chocolate is one of the alternative names of Hot Cocoa. I was looking at the shape of the blooms when I wondered about it. The Hot Chocolates that I've seen have a tighter petal arangement, more like an old-fashioned rose. Your photos show a looser, more open arrangement of petals. The thickness of the petals, though, is an important difference, so I'm sure you're right. There's no better test than growing both and noting the differences between the two. Smiling
Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Jul 10, 2015 1:56 PM CST
I have them planted next to each - they did not bloom at the same time. Burlington has Hot Chocolate listed as 1986.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 10, 2015 2:05 PM CST

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Then she is using the right name, and not an alternative one. It's so wonderful that Burling carries some highly elusive roses. I hope you can get Smoky from her someday. She's the only one that carries the "real" Smoky.
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Jul 10, 2015 3:08 PM CST
'Hot Cocoa' is still under patent protection and I know that Berling does not sell patented roses as she does not want to pay the royalties.

I agree with Zuzu, that Berling is very, very careful to make sure that she does not mislabel her roses.

Lyn
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