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Jul 5, 2015 5:27 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
A friend gave me several iris last summer, but only two bloomed. So many of you know iris by sight so I thought I would add to your brain processes. Does anyone have a name for this one, I have looked on the dB and thought it might be Thornbird. Any suggestions?
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Jul 5, 2015 5:29 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
Sorry gang, it was taking forever to upload the pics so I"ll have to read up on that before I try again,
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Jul 5, 2015 6:47 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
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Aha! success in uploading a picture. Here is the NoID I was asking about. Sorry it took two entries to complete. Grumbling
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Jul 5, 2015 7:38 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
The horns look right but it looks a bit too yellow. Is that the lighting? Is it usually more tanish?
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jul 5, 2015 10:16 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
I only have that pic but I would say it was more tanish.
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Jul 6, 2015 2:55 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thornbird is known to vary a lot in different soil conditions. Check out the database and see what you think. If you want a Thornbird rhizome as a test plant, I can send one in your box.
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Jul 6, 2015 7:42 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Birds Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Region: Kentucky Region: United States of America Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Sure looks like Thornbird to me -- it's a very unique Iris!!
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Jul 6, 2015 8:05 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
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my Thornbird looks quite a bit different.

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It has tan standards with a lavender flush and tan on the falls where it looks white in the photo. But the lavender lines really stand out.
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Jul 6, 2015 8:11 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
As Tom said for Thornbird, different soils, different color. Sometimes the 'horns' are 'spoons'.
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Jul 6, 2015 8:37 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My thornbird this year had both horns and spoons on different blooms, but the red purple horns on thornbird are different than I have seen on any other space ager.

Here are pics of mine, with different lighting really affecting the color:

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Hanging with Helen Collingwood:

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"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jul 6, 2015 8:40 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
I have heard some people say that Thornbird is one of their favorites and I have heard some people say they would toss it. It is an odd one that has stayed around for awhile.
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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Jul 6, 2015 8:58 AM CST
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA (Zone 6b)
Garden Photography Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Region: Japan Region: Pennsylvania
I think that the appeal of Thornbird is varied. It is a Space Ager; it can be different (spoons or/and flounces); it has a somewhat "Ugly" colour* range, and it is a FANTASTIC grower/increaser. Hard to go wrong on this one IMHO.



* Yes, I used the "British/English/UK" version of color to augment my point! Sticking tongue out
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Jul 6, 2015 9:45 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I grow it, but I can't really say about yours, Cleta...as mine hasn't bloomed for a close examination. But, from all the pictures I've seen, I'll agree with the "different soils, different color" thing.
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Jul 6, 2015 3:00 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
Different soils do make a huge difference. I did not know that about iris, But then I have never compared mine to someone else's.
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Jul 10, 2015 10:19 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
I am adding another NoID to this thread. Should I have started a new thread? Anyway here is the pic. Accurate coloring with peachy pink standards and rosy burgundy plicata falls. Any ideas from you who know all. (Hope that sounds
better than 'know it alls'?)
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I read these threads and am amazed at the repartee and camaraderie between so many of you. Impressive.
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Jul 11, 2015 3:53 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Cleta, do you have any other shots of it? I would think peach standards with a spray plicata pattern on the falls would be identifiable. The sun is a bit bright, so a shadier pic would help. Iris look so different in sun and shade.
We are a chatty bunch here as you have found out. Don't be shy to join in.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jul 11, 2015 7:33 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
I don't. I just took it for my records. I did not know I would have a forum of knowledgeable people to help me identify it,
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Jul 11, 2015 9:44 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
I thought it might be "Whirl Around"?
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Jul 13, 2015 2:22 PM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier
Praetorian Guard is also similar. I don't know if that is what you have though.
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Jul 13, 2015 3:58 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Hmmmm.. In that color range, our database shows:
Llama Mama
Roman Song
Secret Melody

It would be helpful to know the beard color... also how long you've had it..
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