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Jul 28, 2015 1:05 PM CST
Name: Kim
Iowa (Zone 5a)
I kill ornamentals... on purpose.
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Recently, I edited to include some details of the Carex retrorsa. I remember reading somewhere it was Endangered. When I looked on the USDA site, I found it was, but only in certain states. I went to mark it, but there was no option to list where. So I believe I just left that alone. What is the best thing to do when I run into this again?

Thank you for your help.
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Jul 28, 2015 1:10 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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You can add a comment to the entry, listing the states in which it's endangered. That would be quite helpful. Smiling
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Jul 28, 2015 1:41 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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In addition, we actually have a databox field for conservation status. Go to the plant in question and click on "Edit data details." Then scroll to the very bottom and you'll see "Convervation Status".

Check off the appropriate one and submit the proposal and once approved, it'll have the nice snazzy conversation status box shown on the plant.
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Jul 28, 2015 1:52 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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I think Chillybean's aware of the databox field, but hesitated to use it because it provided no way of limiting the endangered status to only some specific states.
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Jul 28, 2015 2:50 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
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You're right and I overlooked that. I think you suggestion to use the comments area is the right one and the checkbox should probably be reserved for those plants that have a consistent status everywhere.
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Jul 28, 2015 5:09 PM CST
Name: Kim
Iowa (Zone 5a)
I kill ornamentals... on purpose.
Enjoys or suffers cold winters Spiders! Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants I helped beta test the first seed swap
Region: Nebraska Keeper of Poultry Rabbit Keeper Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Procrastinator Garden Ideas: Level 2
Thanks for the replies. Smiling
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Jul 28, 2015 5:51 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
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Maybe another status could be added, like "endangered in some areas".
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Jul 28, 2015 6:27 PM CST
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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Or, we could stick with zuzu's excellent suggestion to deal with state listed species in the comments section. Smiling

The issue with STATE endangered species lists is that they can seem a bit farcical if taken out of context. The southern flying squirrel, for example, is listed as an endangered species in my state in spite of the fact that it is a common resident of suburban parks throughout most of its range. As another example, there are plants that are listed on the endangered species list of one state and the noxious weed list of another.

The Endangered Species Act is a serious piece of federal legislation. Once an animal, or to a lesser extent plant, goes on the list, a whole series of regulations kick in to provide it with protection. Consequently, listing a species as federally endangered is an arduous and highly legalistic process. Nothing makes it on the list on a whim.

Some states have legislation dealing with endangered species but none, that I'm aware of, even come close to the strength ESA nor could they really. Partly as a result, states tend to use endangered species designations as a means of focusing conservation efforts at what would more properly be described as "at risk species" or "species of concern". In other words, species that don't meet the definition of threatened or endangered, but do seem to be headed in that direction. State endangered species lists tend to be long, and often kind of weird IF the context isn't understood.
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