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Jul 30, 2015 8:11 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Hi everyone, I have a few irises coming from some one. There is a couple of no id (noids) in the group. The person gave me a picture of them though and was wondering if anyone could help id them. the pictures are:
Thumb of 2015-07-30/creativeclover/cb7315
Thumb of 2015-07-30/creativeclover/7d8575

The red one looks like it could be possibly war chief. Thanks for the help.
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Jul 30, 2015 9:19 AM CST
Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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I don't think the red one is War Chief. I hope you do get an ID because they're both beautiful!
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Jul 30, 2015 9:46 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Thumb of 2015-07-30/creativeclover/2dfec8

Here is another photo of the red one if it helps.
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Jul 30, 2015 10:47 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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It doesn't look like the red has purple based foliage and my War Chief does. You should check Dynamite out as a possibility. But I think your red may be too orange red for that one too. It is very pretty whatever it turns out to be!
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Jul 30, 2015 11:46 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Leslie -- that is Tom's NOID red that I sent to Richard, as well as my NOID Royal Purple. The red does have PBF -- but only very slightly here. That may change in Richard's environment. I'm still of the opinion that it is War Chief. I have no clue whatsoever what the Royal Purple is. Shrug!
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Jul 30, 2015 12:33 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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I grow War Chief and have one of Tom's Red Noid too. Now just to get them to bloom in the same year. lol
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Jul 30, 2015 2:05 PM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Does the environment cause the flower to look slightly different from environment to environment?
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Jul 30, 2015 5:55 PM CST
Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Irises Plant Identifier Hummingbirder Birds
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Yes. There can be a lot of variation. I have War Chief in 3 locations and they're slightly different.
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Jul 30, 2015 6:48 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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It's definitely not Dynamite. What about Sultan's Palace?
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Jul 31, 2015 2:18 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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If possibly could be
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Jul 31, 2015 10:35 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Tom's Red Noid grew in my garden this spring between Dynamite and War Chief. While it had some things in common with War Chief, it had many in common with Dynamite. My War Chief has PBF, Dynamite and the NOid did not. I did a close up comparison of Dynamite and the NOid on my thread.

Lestv said:Okay - tonight is a special edition - Tom's NOid vs Dynamite.

NOTE: color variations are due to lighting when pictures were taken. Assume a color match.

The Bud:

a) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/7a90ad b) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/8f2b77

The Top (sorry, these are bad pics):

a) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/cfccbd b) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/718452

The front:

a) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/a7d3fd b) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/e5268a

The closeup:

a) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/99dc96 b) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/4d2782

The side:

a) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/73b8c6 b) Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/3ff66b

Side by side (also not the best of pics...)

Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/9c55eb Thumb of 2015-05-20/Lestv/197f40

So is one Dynamite, and the other Tom's, or are they both one or the other? Give me your guesses!!


A is the NOid and B is Dynamite
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Jul 31, 2015 1:08 PM CST
Name: Tom
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Mine has a fragrance, I think Dynamite does too. War Chief is a parent of Dynamite isn't it?
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Jul 31, 2015 2:21 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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Yes, pod parent
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Jul 31, 2015 5:46 PM CST
Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Irises Plant Identifier Hummingbirder Birds
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I haven't noticed WC having a fragrance.
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Aug 1, 2015 5:46 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Things to check out next spring!
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Aug 1, 2015 8:32 AM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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Either way, fragrance or no fragrance, they are still beautiful.
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Aug 1, 2015 10:40 AM CST
Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Irises Plant Identifier Hummingbirder Birds
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Cat Lover Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I'm going to be found rolling around in the iris patches next year sniffing away. Whistling
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Aug 2, 2015 12:22 AM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Sure look like the same to me, if as you say, the color is a match.
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Aug 3, 2015 12:20 AM CST
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse said:Sure look like the same to me, if as you say, the color is a match.


I think so too,
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Aug 29, 2015 4:45 PM CST
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
Birds Herbs Irises Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Hey everyone, On another thread, I posted a picture of some of my iris blooms. They are noid's and a I just found a few more pictures of them, to try and help id them. The pictures are:


Thumb of 2015-08-29/creativeclover/d94c92
Thumb of 2015-08-29/creativeclover/a20bed
Thumb of 2015-08-29/creativeclover/c5019c
Thumb of 2015-08-29/creativeclover/5e3769
Thumb of 2015-08-29/creativeclover/3e884f
Thumb of 2015-08-29/creativeclover/8f643f

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