Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum: Milkweed plant distribution for monarchs

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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Aug 23, 2015 12:38 PM CST
I don't intend this as a marketing ploy - just interesting information.
http://monarchwatch.org/milkwe...
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Aug 23, 2015 12:43 PM CST
Thanks, Cindy! Monarch Watch is a great program and they've been selling the native milkweeds for a few years now. It can be really hard to find native milkweeds for sale so this is great for gardeners and Monarchs.

For those who don't know, Monarch Watch is a non-profit, educational program that is based at the University of Kansas. They are the ones that distribute tags each year and track the Monarch migration to Mexico. They've also been encouraging people to plant more native milkweeds and since it is often hard to find, they've been growing and selling their own.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Aug 23, 2015 12:47 PM CST
What I found interesting is the different types of milkweed by region. Is that based on what's native? If so, maybe that explains why I can't grow FL milkweed here in IN. :)
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Aug 23, 2015 6:10 PM CST
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they only sell what's native to that area. If I recall, they even get locally sourced seeds from volunteers in those regions.
Name: Jim D
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jimard8
Aug 25, 2015 6:19 PM CST
I have four of them Tuberosa
Syrica
Cynachum Leave
incarnata Green Grin!
Cynachum seems to win this season , lots of Monarchs You have seen this before , it's a baby though , always popular the theme , Whistling
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Aug 26, 2015 8:39 AM CST
Nice pic, Jim. You see to be a pro at getting milkweed to grow for you. I wish I had the right environment for it but in a wooded area. At least I get to see swallowtails going after my small carrot foliage. :)
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Aug 26, 2015 9:13 AM CST
Try one of the vine types . I am hesitant and most are to talk about them , However they will grow in the shade , as 4 or 5 hrs of sunshine , However , there is one here growing on the North side of the house , get bright light that is all , it will grow for the sun anywhere .. Another is growing from the base of an 18 ft Apple tree , it is over the top of the tree ,now , it dies back to the ground in winter .Herbaceous ) vigorous ,
Of course when you miss getting one pod that goes to seed , Your neighbors might want to hang you when it grows on every fence and trellis within five Miles Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Aug 26, 2015 10:47 AM CST
Hilarious! I don't have the space for a vine that vigorous. Currently trying to kill off my porcelain berry vine by repeatedly cutting it down - it attracts too many Japanese beetles.
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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Aug 26, 2015 11:24 AM CST
I am a little confused (nothing unusual, there). On the Ecoregions chart, my area has nothing indicated, meaning the column for 255 is blank of selections. Does that mean there are no native milkweeds here?
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 26, 2015 12:09 PM CST
That is odd Debra. I googled to find milkweed native to Dallas area & came up with zilch but there are some sites that list ones for North Texas. Then I found this which is certainly informational.
https://monarchbutterflygarden...
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Aug 26, 2015 1:00 PM CST
Edited .

This link , is pretty good ,


http://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowe...

See if one of these gets you there , Milkweed region links ,,
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Aug 26, 2015 1:38 PM CST
Another great link!
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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Aug 26, 2015 1:46 PM CST
flaflwrgrl and Shadegardener , Thank You!
Looking up info is good but Green Grin! Smiling But it can also drive ya Bugs Whistling Smiling
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Aug 26, 2015 2:19 PM CST
Thank you. Useful stuff. So how do I interpret the Ecoregions chart?
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Aug 26, 2015 2:49 PM CST
Debra, that just means Monarch Watch doesn't have any native milkweeds from your region for sale at this time.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Aug 26, 2015 2:50 PM CST
lovemyhouse I might be nosing in at the wrong place but yours are here ,
If Dallas , you are as it says
The chart I placed the link to says these are your native Milkweed , Couple of others likely grow where you are

Green Antelopehorn Milkweed)
Asclepias viridis
Dry areas and prairies.

Asclepias asperula)
Desert and sandy areas
Asclepias oenotheroides)
Sandy or rocky prairies and fields.


I saw some Antelopehorn , for 6.89 for 10 seeds ,, little pricey and some there ,, I would ask here on the plant and seed trading thread
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
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lovemyhouse
Aug 26, 2015 3:27 PM CST
Mellie, yes, that answers my question. Smiling

Thank you for the research, Jim, I will do that. Thumbs up
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