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Aug 25, 2015 10:03 AM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Aug 27, 2015 5:31 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
None of you? Really? C'mon ATPers!
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Aug 27, 2015 7:01 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Aug 27, 2015 7:11 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Lin, after looking at your links I see there is a Momordica balsamina and a Momordica charantia. I thought this was the former, but after reading I think it's the latter. Anyone out there want to chime in with an opinion?
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Aug 27, 2015 7:15 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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LOL, I don't know one from the other but it sure looked like Balsam Apple I've seen before, I just don't know which one I've seen. Rolling on the floor laughing

It does look a lot like photos in the database for Bitter Gourd (Momordica charantia)
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Aug 27, 2015 7:19 PM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Well, I was looking at the Florida Atlas of Vascular Plants because one of your links mentioned that M. balsamina was only found in St. Lucie County. Sure enough, the map showed that. And it showed the other species is found throughout Florida and it's also listed as a Category II invasive. So it would seem more likely to be M. charantia simply based on location.
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Aug 28, 2015 6:17 AM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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Sorry, I was busy and missed this thread. I also think it may be the M. charantia. The M. balsamina has longer spines than the M. charantia.
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Aug 28, 2015 6:30 AM CST
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Okay, I'm accepting that then based on the evidence!
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