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Sep 4, 2015 9:11 AM CST
Name: Christine
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We have at least a dozen different varieties of oaks and would like to (finally) try to identify them, with help of course. I'm starting now with the leaves green and will document the acorns and color changes as they arrive.

This one sits at the edge of the forest, it's quite large, guessing 70 to 80 feet tall and very wide, taking up most of this picture.



Leaves


Bark and branching



Edit- for my own notes to keep from getting confused. This tree is located at the far side of the back pasture.
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Sep 4, 2015 11:14 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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There are a few that come to my mind in resemblance but I am not good at trying to compare photos for exactness. These are the ones I was thinking of as possibilities but I'm not sure if all grow in your area.

Quercus velutina - Black Oak:
Black Oak (Quercus velutina)
http://www.dendro.cnre.vt.edu/...

Q. shumardii - Shumard Oak:
Shumard Oak (Quercus shumardii)
http://www.dendro.cnre.vt.edu/...

Q. coccinea - Scarlet Oak:
Scarlet Oak (Quercus coccinea)
http://www.dendro.cnre.vt.edu/...

Q. texana, Texas Red Oak:
Nuttall Oak (Quercus texana)
http://www.missouribotanicalga...
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/st56...
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Sep 4, 2015 12:45 PM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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It is a red Oak for sure. Smiling
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Sep 4, 2015 12:50 PM CST
Name: Christine
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Hi Lin,

Thank you for your help. That's the problem, isn't it? Many look alike. I didn't realize so many of them have leaves and bark that look very similar. I've been looking over the internet sites for awhile so I see three of those names above look familiar and do grow in Texas... not sure about Scarlet Oak.

I think I'll pull some leaves for better pictures. Maybe even gather some different looking leaves for detailed comparison.

I'll be back. nodding
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Sep 4, 2015 2:10 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
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Since oaks grow from seeds, it is possible that it is actually a "mixed breed" red oak due to cross pollination.
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Sep 4, 2015 4:19 PM CST
Name: Christine
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Oh, Frostweed, I missed your post earlier. I'm glad you can identify this one as a Red Oak.

Thank you so much!

I have more oaks to identify. I'll get pictures soon. Smiling
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Sep 4, 2015 4:57 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Why not Black Oak, Quercus velutina? It has spines on the tips of the leaf lobes and the bark seems to match.

http://www.public.iastate.edu/...

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dend...

The link Lin gave for Q. texana, Texas Red Oak is called Nuttall oak elsewhere, the bark doesn't look right.

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dend...

There's also Northern Red Oak, Quercus rubra .. bark doesn't look correct on that either.

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dend...

Are there any acorns on it?
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Sep 4, 2015 5:43 PM CST
Name: josephine
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I was thinking of this one but not sure Smiling
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Sep 4, 2015 5:59 PM CST
Name: Christine
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It does look right, Frostweed.

But, I was thinking this might be a long process. Hilarious! Since fall is coming soon, I figure I can get some pictures of the fall color, which might help. Also looking for acorns. I haven't seen many acorns falling this year... yet. Will start looking for those too. Thumbs up
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Sep 4, 2015 6:00 PM CST
Name: Jay
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Christine, what county?
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Sep 4, 2015 6:02 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Quercus texana is a synonym of Quercus buckleyi.

http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...

But, strangely there is Quercus texana Buckley.

http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...

This could get confusing. Hilarious!

http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...
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Sep 4, 2015 6:04 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Texas Red Oak, Spanish Oak, Spotted Oak, Red Oak, Rock Oak
Quercus buckleyi (Q. texana)

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu...
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Sep 4, 2015 6:23 PM CST
Name: Christine
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Jay, Hopkins County.

Hi Janet, that looks really close but then I think I have another tree, with a different bark (more shaggy) that looks like that one. I know the acorn looks right for Q. texana on the tree I'm thinking of.

I'm not sure what the acorns look like on this one, will go tomorrow and see if I can find any in the tree, I didn't notice any on the ground but will look again.

I'm not going to be in any hurry thought, I've waited about seven or eight years, so can wait a little longer. *Blush*

Thanks all.
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Sep 5, 2015 10:18 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Checked for acorns and it looks like they are just now starting to form.

Found this one on a low branch of the tree.


On a little higher branch
Thumb of 2015-09-05/wildflowers/103cd0

But mostly this
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Sep 5, 2015 10:56 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Well, it could be Quercus texana but the acorns aren't yet ripe, it's difficult to say for sure as others look similar.

I'm going to ask you to look under the leaves and look for "Axillary tufts of tomentum on the lower surface vein angles" which can be seen on the photo of the underside of leaves on this site ... next to the mid-vein tucked into the radiating vein angles.

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dend...

Axillary tufts of tomentum on the lower surface vein angles are distinctive.


http://www.missouribotanicalga...
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Sep 5, 2015 11:13 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Thumbs up Will do.
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Sep 5, 2015 3:10 PM CST
Name: Christine
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Here's a few pictures, although I'm disappointed in how blurry they turned out. Sorry. If you cannot use these, let me know and I'll try again.

I ran across a pretty good site that looks helpful. It looks to lean towards Q. texana for this one, I think. http://bioimages.vanderbilt.ed...

I can see some slight tufting at the leaf veins... but not significant.

Thumb of 2015-09-05/wildflowers/1f9b00 Thumb of 2015-09-05/wildflowers/8087ca

I also noticed that many of the leaves had an uneven margin at the stem.

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Sep 5, 2015 7:04 PM CST
Name: Christine
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frostweed said:I was thinking of this one but not sure Smiling
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This might be a good match for this one :
The thread "Texas red oak (Quercus buckleyi); Oak tree in Texas #2" in Plant ID forum
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Sep 6, 2015 12:21 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
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This subject is interesting and fun. Do you have any more mystery oaks? I, for one, am learning a lot
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Sep 6, 2015 2:50 PM CST
Name: Christine
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Oh good, so glad I'm not being a pain trying to ID too many trees because as a matter of fact I do have more mystery oaks, Porkpal. Hilarious! I'll be getting some more pictures together soon - next day or two.

Thank you all for your help; I've been wanting to do this for a long time! It will be very nice to be able to pass this information on to my grandsons.
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