Plumeria forum: Recomendations on Plumeria to Grow from Seed

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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Sep 10, 2015 11:12 AM CST
That's what happened to me in late 2012, I bought seeds that were mostly 10 seeds each pack and thought I will have a low germination rate. That's how I ended up with 65+ seedlings that I'm having a hard time taking care of, so most are still stunted in the tiny pots.

I didn't have the heart to give them away because no one wants to take care of seedlings that might take too long to bloom. I figure I have the patience and will repot them and feed them well next spring.

David I grew my seedlings indoor at first using those little jiffy pellets and placed them in the rotisserie container to make them look like they were in mini greenhouses. Winter time I brought them in and placed them on a south facing window . They did really well, you just have to watch closely so they won't rot from the moisture.

If you repot them diligently in bigger container, you could easily have a 2 to 4 feet tall plumeria summer time.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 10, 2015 7:52 PM CST
Thanks a lot Gigi. Have you or DrDawg tried gibberic acid on them? I have used it on several seeds with good luck. It is very useful when used correctly on hard to germinate seeds.

As you may have surmised, I have no problem growing something that will not bloom for years. Right now I have Siberian Iris (in ground), dierama and dietes among others that I started from seed 1 and 2 years ago, and they will take a while to bloom. The latter two must be brought in.

In addition, I do bonsai so I do understand patience - which that will try. Heh. I have 5 types of Bauhinia that I started from seed 2 years ago and it will be years before I see them bloom. Note I did not say if. Smiling They are also tropical, so I have to winter them indoors.
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Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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GigiPlumeria
Sep 10, 2015 7:57 PM CST
Nope, I just use water with a little superthrive.

If you have the patience, growing seeds is perfect for you.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 10, 2015 8:00 PM CST
drdawg said: I have never had more than 50% germination (and often much less), and I have tried three different methods.


Could you briefly summarize the 3 methods?

Also, any thoughts/comments on my choices? Anyone?

Aside from the one dwarf, I based my choices primarily on if I liked the flower form. Price was a factor as well.

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Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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GigiPlumeria
Sep 10, 2015 8:07 PM CST
I am curious if your Celadine seedlings will have as fragrant bloom as the parent Celadine. I think you got a good variety of seeds.
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Mark619
Sep 10, 2015 8:11 PM CST
Back to baby seed pods....
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 10, 2015 8:16 PM CST
Thanks Gigi. I realize that they do not necessarily come true from seed, but BBB was a reputable vendor. Since I have never smelled a Plumeria .... hehe. My neighbor up the street has one that I am guessing will be in bloom in a week or so. I check it out every couple of days.

Was looking for info on how long it takes. I noticed the beginning of the inflo about 10 days ago - he was not even aware of it and said his 5 have not bloomed in a few years. He is an elderly gentleman and has them in way tooooooo much shade. I brought that to his DIL's attention, but they have not moved the plants yet.
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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Sep 10, 2015 8:21 PM CST
From tiny buds to fully opened bloom, it usually takes a month.

Mark congrats on another seedpod.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 18, 2015 4:57 PM CST
Received my seeds from BBB today. Now I am SOOOOOOO anxious to get them started. nodding Will likely wait til Jan or Feb in my basement. Doan want them to get lanky. They will have 3 - 4 months to get started nefore moving outdoors ~ Mid May.

Bottom heat, light 12 hours, ~ 60 room temp 24-7, will keep the room humidity up and keep a seedling tray cover on til seedlings emerge.

@DrDawg - sound like a plan?
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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Sep 18, 2015 6:37 PM CST
Grow half this time and grow half in Jan or Feb
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Sep 18, 2015 7:07 PM CST
My two best seedlings were started in late December/early January.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 18, 2015 7:17 PM CST
Thanks Gigi and Ken. I just don't want to run the risk of them getting leggy from starting too early. Just need to keep the fluorescent lights close.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Sep 18, 2015 8:24 PM CST
I had the advantage of moving them to a greenhouse, David.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 18, 2015 8:51 PM CST
I do have a pretend greenhouse - I did move some stuff into it in April last year. No problem.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Sep 19, 2015 5:18 AM CST
I over-winter the vast majority of my plumeria in a "temporary" greenhouse too, a 6'x10' structure built in one side of my garage. I may have to add a couple of feet this year. I have a lot of plumeria. Sighing! They will be completely dormant. I start seeds and grow my first-year seedlings in a "real" greenhouse though. I am going to try to keep several going through the winter in a sunroom that is under construction. I want to see how dormant those will get.
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Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Sep 19, 2015 5:26 PM CST
drdawg said:I over-winter the vast majority of my plumeria in a "temporary" greenhouse too, a 6'x10' structure built in one side of my garage. I may have to add a couple of feet this year. I have a lot of plumeria. Sighing! They will be completely dormant. I start seeds and grow my first-year seedlings in a "real" greenhouse though. I am going to try to keep several going through the winter in a sunroom that is under construction. I want to see how dormant those will get.


Keep us posted - I read a lot of posts and enjoy the knowledge gained, even If I don't post on a thread.

I would like to say that I am quite impressed with the depth and breadth of knowledge and wisdom here at ATP.
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