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Sep 6, 2015 9:02 PM CST
|I am in zone 5 actually close to a zone 4b....... but most lilies survive the winter here pretty good. the last two have been brutal and have lost a few to the really cold weather that is not the norm here.......|
But I prefer to plant in the fall..............the spring is so busy doing all kinds of other things and then the fact that I have to cover everything in case of frost.........
so prefer to plant in the fall
a company that buy quite a few lilies from does not sell any orientals in the fall at all............and ship only in the spring time..... Kirsha Maya they are starting with new stock in the spring so will order them at that time
but the rest I think fall it is.................
I was going to try to plant some Regale and just see if they come up in the spring by seed......... I have tons of seeds for them here.
I will also plant some Regale and Album in the spring by seed as well........
I know some lilies do not like the colder temps so just thought I would get some ideas off the board as to other peoples thoughts
Chile (Zone 9b)
Sep 6, 2015 9:42 PM CST
|Pat, I'm not one of the ATP Lily experts, but I have always heard/read that Lilies should be planted/transplanted in Fall. This gives them enough time to adapt and to feed for their next season display. |
If planted/transplanted in Spring, their flowere quality/quantity would be affected.
Sep 7, 2015 2:15 PM CST
|I'm certainly no expert either, but I'd tend to agree with what you both have been saying so far |
It's nice to have some of the work done in the Autumn and some lilies can perform a little bit worse the first season if spring planted. It's also very true that an autumn planted lily can die in its first winter as it will be more sensitive.
My only suggestion would be to get the work with preparing soil and beds done in the autumn and then it will be very easy and quick to get the planting of more sensitive lilies done in spring.
Chile (Zone 9b)
Sep 7, 2015 3:05 PM CST
|William, you are so right!|
The problem is I record what is OK for my type of climate (equivalent to a USDA zone 9b) and probably don't retain info. pertinent to colder climates.
Please, Lily Experts advise is required!
Sep 8, 2015 9:26 AM CST
|I would say planting in fall is preferred over planting in spring. Bulbs are able to settle into their more natural cycle and be allowed to "wake up" in spring on their own natural cycle. |
The one thing about spring is there tends to be more selection. So I wouldn't say it is wrong to plant in the spring, just not as preferred as the fall would be .
Sep 8, 2015 6:22 PM CST
|I think early Fall planting is better whenever possible. Every now and again, I've found myself in situations where I've planted a group of bulbs in early to mid-October, then changed my mind about location and dug them up and moved them to a different spot a couple weeks later. In all instances, it's amazing how much the bulb(s) progressed. Lots of tiny little roots had sprouted all around the parameter of the basil plate. The larger anchor roots had expanded to their original size and they too, had tiny little hair-like roots developing all along, up and down them. And, the bulbs themselves had become larger, more solid and looked brand new all over again. It's been pretty darn obvious that bulbs such as these were well on their way to being well established and acclimated for a good 'on time' show of flowers next Spring. |
Of course, it's not always possible to plant in the Fall. For most of us, there's always something new for Spring that we want. But I view those Spring purchases as starter bulbs--to get a start of something for the following year and only allow one flower per plant for ID verification.
Sep 9, 2015 2:56 PM CST
Mutisia said:William, you are so right!
To some extent we all are colored by our experiences and conditions, wouldn't you agree?
By the way I think that what you are saying is probably true for most climates as long as we are talking about very hardy lilies such as Asiatics. I was just talking about the sensitive ones that could be borderline hardy in the colder zones. So I wasn't really disagreeing with you
Chile (Zone 9b)
Sep 9, 2015 3:44 PM CST
|I don't disagree with you either, William. There are just so many different climates and I gave an initial answer with what is true for me.|
Talking about our climate, it's gone mad: last week we had max. temperatures ranging between 26 and 29°C. Since last weekend we are back to 'normal': it's colder (back to heating) and humid but so far we have barely over 50% of a normal year's average rain.
My L.a. hybrids are emerging strongly. Even an oriental hybrid (white) has emerged!
Sep 9, 2015 4:08 PM CST
|Sorry to hear that there still is such a lack of rain. |
But still, the joy of new growth is hard to beat!
Of course, we want pictures Ursula, Pictures!!!
Sep 9, 2015 5:49 PM CST
|I had a lot of lilies that were planted in pots and now transplanted to the big beds.......|
and not one of them bloomed when they were supposed to in the pots.......many of them later then earlier...........that was odd
but spring will right them to where they belong for blooming.........
The one thing I like about planting new variety in the spring time is that you can space out the planting a bit to increase the blooming period.........
if you plant them in the fall........they come up and bloom at the same time
pro and con's to both
but most of mine are still going in the fall.................I am planting more trumpets in this fall and I know they do not do well in the colder temps but for some reason they like my place..........hahaha. Never lost a trumpet ever in years and years......... I love the trumpet lilies........... Will NEED really good mulch in them to make it through the winter time here and leave the mulch on in the springtime later since sure as @@@@ the frost will make an appearance and lily shoots will be up and a repeat of last year
this year has not been my year for lilies at all...............so many are trampled and broke off and so on............
if anything comes up next year it might look like first year stock.........instead but it will still be nice......
oddly enough the bulbs that never took any abuse from anything here this summer ...........were my trumpets............
Sep 13, 2015 4:53 PM CST
|One thing about spring planting is to make sure you have a good sized bulb to start with..........|
you would notice the difference between a good lily breeder and say Breck's for instance....