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rosti
Sep 15, 2015 4:03 PM CST
I'm looking for a fast growing, full sun, wind hardy vine plant to plant by a couple arbors out by my pond to provide shade. Does anyone have any suggestions? I did some research and it appears that Trumpet Vines, Potato Vines, and Honeysuckle are on my "probable" list. Also, are climbing roses on a trellis okay in wind? And by wind I mean 150+ days a year with sustained wind at 20 MPH with regular gusts reaching 35 MPH and once or twice a year, 45+ MPH.
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Xeramtheum
Sep 15, 2015 4:39 PM CST
Hi Rosti and welcome!

Luffa cylindrica sounds like a good candidate - dense vine with pretty yellow flowers .. doesn't mind being pruned either - likes all of the above described plus you get loofah sponges!

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greene
Sep 15, 2015 5:07 PM CST
Welcome!
It would help if we knew your location. We could give better answers for your particular (windy) climate zone. Thumbs up
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rosti
Sep 15, 2015 6:25 PM CST
Thanks Xeramtheum!
According to the USDA map we are in zone 6a.
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jmorth
Sep 15, 2015 10:51 PM CST
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Chillybean
Sep 16, 2015 9:34 AM CST
Clematis is a good idea, but the Sweet Autumn Clematis is listed as invasive weed in the southeast. I am assuming you are in the US.
http://plants.usda.gov/core/pr...

Some non-native clematis are well behaved and brightly colored (I had a Jackman, think that was the name.) that was a beautiful purple, but rabbits will eat them to the ground if they are not protected with chicken wire or something.

I just planted several native clematis that have the same flower as the Sweet Autumn. Clematis (Clematis virginiana) It takes a couple of years to really fill out. Some of the individual vines are over ten feet long this first year.

If you have rabbits and deer, they will not eat it because it is poisonous to mammals. It will only go to seed if you happen to have both genders. Our state is called the Saudi Arabia of wind (Hence why we have all those eyesores along I-80.) and in our gusts, my clematis have held well to what they cling to. I am training some along a fence (These are our most exposed ones) and others up chicken wire attached to the house, on the north, east and south sides. I figured if any of them didn't make it, I'd still have some, but so far, none have died.

The reason I planted so many is I want them to go to seed, that is where I feel this plant's glory is. In our area, they are native and the county is planting native seeds in the ditches, so I figure if mine escape, it's helping them and the native insects. :)


I just put in Trumpet Creeper along a south fence, but I got them a couple of months ago as cuttings. I heard they can be vigorous. That is my hope for next year.


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dyzzypyxxy
Sep 16, 2015 10:54 AM CST
Hey rosti, welcome to ATP. It really helps more if you can give us at least your city and state. Your zone only really tells us how cold winter generally gets on average. A zone 6a in Utah (high and dry) is a very different climate to zone 6a in Missouri or Maryland (low and humid) or Oregon. Different plants will survive in different areas.

There is a space in your profile page to put in your location, and then it will come up automatically any time you post.

What kind of support are your vines going to be climbing on? Clematis does well on chain link fencing or anything with small supports to wrap its tendrils around. But a plank or picket fence might not give it enough purchase. Honeysuckle likes to twine around vertical supports, so again, they can't be too big.

Also are there any trees upwind of your property that might provide a windbreak at least in the warm months when they have leaves? If not, you could think about planting some! A berm with small evergreens can also deflect a lot of wind to help your garden get established.
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rosti
Sep 16, 2015 11:41 AM CST
I thought I put my location when I signed up...... Centerville, WA

Well, I certainly don't want something invasive so that Clematis is probably out.
No, there are no trees down there and it is not hopeful that I'll be able to plant any hence to arbor idea for shade.
Here, I have a picture...... ETA-Notice the trees on the right leaning due to very strong winds.
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greene
Sep 16, 2015 11:53 AM CST
Rosti,
Go ahead and add your information again and remember to hit "Save Your Changes" at the bottom of the page. That should work. Thumbs up

Oh, looking at the photo and knowing the location helps a lot. I would think about creating a row of small trees and shrubs to act as a windbreak. Gradually, over time, that will help the area near your house and garden to be protected from the strongest winds.
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Bonehead
Sep 16, 2015 12:30 PM CST
Welcome Rosti. I am in Washington as well, but on the wet side. I have grown autumn clematis with no invasiveness problem. It did get very thick and robust (which sounds ideal for your situation), but I ended up digging it out because I had planted it to grow up within a mature lilac and after a couple snowy winters, it just weighed the lilac branches down too much. If you planted it on a strong trellis, that might be a good choice. Virginia creeper also comes to mind, or an ivy other than English (which IS invasive in Washington). Here's a link to your county to double check invasiveness before you plant:

http://wnps.org/invasive_speci...

Good luck, and let us know what you decide on.
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litaariani
Jan 15, 2018 9:09 PM CST
I need a reference of vines, that is trong enough for being an ornament of a high-rise building, located in South East Asia (Java, Indonesia), which has tropical climate, and extremele hot in the city. The plant will be planted on every level to enclose the building to its top, in certain part of the building. Considering the location which is extremely hot and the strong wind on its peak, i need an advice what to be planted.

So far i have some choices but a kind of support and profound information will help to get it done well.
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stone
Jan 16, 2018 5:06 PM CST
@litaariani Suggest starting a fresh thread for your question...

But to offer an idea or two... If you are certain the structure can handle the roots and the weight, I would consider Asian stand-bys like Chinese wisteria and kudzu.

I would discourage anybody from planting these here in the states, but... in Asia?

Maybe look at the evergreen clematis varieties as well.

Lot of options, as the tropics tend to have a lot of vines... but, growing them on a building tends to be problematic as the vine sends tendrils and roots and such into the construction materials and pulls the decorative trim off the structure! And heavy? Like you would not believe... I've lost a lot of mature oaks as the grape vines got too heavy and broke limbs and even the entire tops out of the trees.

A smarter choice might be to plant runner beans or climbing limas... or other edibles.
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fwmosher
Jan 16, 2018 8:29 PM CST
ROSTI, let me suggest the following, all requiring trellis posts or an arbour. Number 1: a row of Grape vines,
Number 2: several Northern Kiwi
Number 3: Two or three Japanese or Chinese Wisteria.
I have all of these and the beauty of all of them is that they grow exceedingly quickly, with tons of green foliage and properly placed, tons of shade. As an example, here in Nova Scotia, I have some grape vines climbing up spruce trees forty feet in the air, and bearing grapes! The downside, they all have to be pruned each Spring. Nothing difficult about it, but it should be done. And in three years you will have fruit on both, and flowers on the Wisteria.
PS. Do not plant Virginia Creeper-ever! Looks pretty in the Fall, but it will travel hundreds of feet in all directions, along the ground and you will not know it. Your neighbours will tell you. Cheers!

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