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Sep 16, 2015 3:04 PM CST
Name: Mayo
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I was wondering..

do Alfalfa pellets add Nitrogen to the soil?
and how high/deep do you need to make raised beds? Shrug!

The soil in the soon-to-be-mine plot is quite clayish, so I'm considering digging 1 spade deep,
amending the soil and making raised beds above it. Thumbs up
Does that sound as a good plan? Whistling


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Sep 16, 2015 6:27 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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Sounds pretty similar to what I did except I went two spades deep. The daylilies seem to like it there even though I planted them all about 6 inches apart!
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Sep 16, 2015 7:58 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Elena - 6" apart????? Really? Were they seedlings or a single fan or what?

I am struggling for space with seedlings and always curious to know how others are growing theirs.

Of course, you are in the northern states and they probably don't grow like they grow here.....
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Sep 17, 2015 12:52 AM CST
Name: Sabrina
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Mine are all tight together. Except for poor blooming I don't see any problem, they grow fast and big. But foliage makes a mess leaves from one DL touch the others, so I'm planning to move some anyway.
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Sep 17, 2015 3:18 AM CST
Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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I do not think Alfalfa adds Nitrogen, if so its very little.
0ne spade deep is plenty, deeper will also be fine, my boxes are 9.50" deep and I have never seen roots come out the bottom.

My baby seedlings are 8" apart, but I only keep them two years then destroy all but the few keepers.
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Sep 17, 2015 5:06 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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That is good to know about the depth. I have heard that you shouldn't plant daylilies deeper than the top of or 1" below the crown (where the roots and the leaves meet). Too deep and they don't bloom very well and can get crown rot.

Fred - My newest two beds are about 12" deep, I was wondering if that was going to be deep enough. Thanks for mentioning about your roots never growing deeper than your 9 1/2" depth. Thank You! Thumbs up
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Sep 17, 2015 5:22 AM CST
Name: Elena
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I wish I had enough room to space out my daylilies! But they have to make due with my limited space. I only started fertilizing them on a regular basis last year so they stayed at 2-3 fans for years. Now they are starting to multiply so I have started to divide them. If they grow too much I can always go back to not fertilizing them as much. They get plenty of worm castings anyway since my yard is overrun with earthworms.
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Sep 17, 2015 8:47 AM CST
Name: Sue
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Mayo62 said:I was wondering..

do Alfalfa pellets add Nitrogen to the soil?


Yes, but only a relative little. Alfalfa pellets typically contain 2% nitrogen. This is presumably mostly in organic form which plants can't use until it is converted by soil microorganisms into plant usable forms. According to one source the N in alfalfa pellets releases over 1 to 4 months but the start of that would be dependent on the activity of the microbes, which is also dependent on other factors like temperature.
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Sep 17, 2015 10:07 AM CST
Name: Mayo
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spunky1 said:
My baby seedlings are 8" apart, but I only keep them two years then destroy all but the few keepers.


So.. in the photo's of your seedling beds they are just 8" apart?
Wow! I would have thought that it was more Whistling

Sounds good, though!
Means I have more space for... uhm.. more DL's? Rolling on the floor laughing


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Sep 18, 2015 5:52 AM CST
Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Just 8," after two years the beds look like one big daylily before they start blooming.
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Sep 18, 2015 2:50 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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That makes me feel better to hear some of you grow yours close together. I have to space mine close together due to limited space. I haven't seen the massive growth to become one large daylily clump in any of my raised beds .... yet.
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