Irises forum: Intermediate Iris "Forte"

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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Sep 26, 2015 12:33 AM CST


Linneaj said:I am looking at yodad50's sold listings. He doesn't take his own pics. He has one of Calif_Sue's pics for Monty Byers, Dance for Joy.

Not my picture @Linneaj, the caption says "Photo courtesy of Williamson Farm Flowers" and it's also embedded on the image. Thumbs up
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Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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Sep 26, 2015 7:24 AM CST
cbunny41 said:Ok, after looking at other pictures on Williamson's site, I agree both ATP pictures are the same iris. Who gets to tell these two growers they are distributing an iris with the wrong name? I would bet that one got the plant from the other.

I'm sure you are correct , about them "trading iris"........there are several *mistakes* (at least in MHO !) that are common to both sites. And, as to "telling " them.......I've tried that with one of them, Sticking tongue out , but, maybe I'm not "diplomatic" enough Shrug! . Or, perhaps my e-mails didn't 'go through", as I never had a reply Shrug! .
Of course, when you are 'convinced' that you are correct (and we all "lean" this way !) , you tend to stress only the points that tend to prove your case, and overlook the points that don't !
I have about 1200 different"named" cultivars , and there is "room for doubt" involved in all of them ! Mistakes happen......errors in marking, plants growing together, different "eyes" reading the AIS descriptions of the iris, or seeing the photos. Even those iris I have acquired directly from the hybridizer can have 'mistakes' happen along the way...if not in THEIR garden,.....certainly in MINE ! The best we all can do, is be vigilant in our observations of the plants, comparing them to not only the pictures available, but the WRITTEN descriptions, as well ( and , since ALL the databases can have errors this is sometimes sort of a challenge !), be 'diplomatic" in our queries about ones we are "suspicious of', and open minded when someone else questions OUR iris. Bottom line, we ALL make mistakes, and , if discovered, we ALL need to be a part of the 'correction process"......every one of the data bases , and every vendors websites have them.........and they are all 'vetted', and monitored, and that process has to continue, if we ever want to have "the most accurate information". A big job, that will never be done ! And, remember, there is no 'shame" in making an error....if you have "reasons" to back up 'your" them out, have a discussion, either prove, or disprove , the ID, make corrections, if needed, and get back to the "One name, One iris" concept. I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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Sep 26, 2015 7:41 AM CST
Very well stated, Arlyn. At my age I make more mistakes than some others and sometimes the bees have their own ideas of what irises should grow in my garden. It never hurts to open a dialog about an irises origin with me and I like to have my garden 'watched' by more than my old eyes. I love my irises and if I am putting the wrong name on one I would welcome any and all comments about it. Also, I cannot put a name to a NoID just because it looks 'close enough' to a photo. That seems disrespectful to the iris, the hybridizer and anyone in the future that would trust me to send the rightly named plant.
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Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
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Sep 26, 2015 10:45 AM CST
Thanks for the link to Williamson Farm and their pic of "Forte," Linnea. That's the iris I thought I was buying. Loved the
deeper purple beard on the rosy lavender falls. And that's what I got - but mis-named. Wonder what I should call it now? It isn't a vigorous plant, but it
did flower in the spring.(I bought it last year).
I, for one, appreciate it when mistakes are pointed out. Keeping it accurate.
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Name: Linnea
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Sep 26, 2015 12:08 PM CST
It looks like the iris farm is a nice one, just an oops.
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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Sep 26, 2015 1:42 PM CST
But you might notify them that it is an 'oops'. I am sure they would not want an unknown plant bought from them in circulation.

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