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Sep 26, 2015 4:31 AM CST
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Name: Glen Ingram
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Any ideas what this vine is? The flower is large 5" (13cm) in diameter and the length of the leaf is about the same. It is growing in a garden here on the island and flowering today, which is the start of spring here.

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Sep 26, 2015 6:04 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Maybe Passiflora vitifolia? It's really nice, whatever it is.
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Sep 26, 2015 6:05 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
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Likely Red Passion Flower (Passiflora miniata). Gorgeous!

I think it's in our DB here at ATP as Passiflora coccinea.
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Sep 26, 2015 7:21 AM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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The leaf shape is correct for coccinea. P. vitifolia has three-lobed leaves.
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Sep 26, 2015 10:50 PM CST
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Name: Glen Ingram
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Many, many thanks, You are wonderful.
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Sep 27, 2015 8:53 AM CST
Name: greene
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The ATP database has Passiflora miniata here:
Passiflora miniata

And two for Passiflora coccinea here:
Red Passion Flower (Passiflora coccinea)
Scarlet Passion Flower (Passiflora coccinea 'Maui')
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Sep 27, 2015 9:16 AM CST
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Nice specimen!
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Sep 27, 2015 9:50 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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On looking at the db photos for P. coccinea some appear to clearly have three-lobed leaves. Perhaps those need to be moved to P. vitifolia? It's a nice thing about queries like this in that it seems to often serve at making the db more accurate in the process of making a valid identification. Smiling
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Sep 27, 2015 9:57 AM CST
Name: greene
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I'm a bit lost. Please, what was decided for the identification of Gleni's plant?
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~"Leaf of Faith"
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Sep 27, 2015 10:03 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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@greene it must have been P. coccinea since the leaves he provided were not lobed and @Ursula advised that P. vitifolia has three lobed leaves. @Ursula is surely correct since the common name for P. vitifolia includes 'grape leaved Passion Flower' if you search enough. The leaves Glen provided in his photo don't resemble grape leaves, for sure Smiling . I concluded his plant to be P. coccinea from the discussion. In photos, the blooms appear to be nearly the same.
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Sep 27, 2015 1:49 PM CST
Name: Ursula
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Years ago I used to be a bit of a Passiflora addict, I had many different ones as space allowed. Smiling In the process, I picked up John Vanderplank's book "Passion Flowers". It is a great resource and list them alphabetically with comparisons of similar species. And yes, vitifolia is ruled out due to the different leaf shape.
Other reds are speciosa, leaves are also three-lobed. There is quadriglandulosa, the leaves are entire or asymmetrically three-lobed and quadrifaria with leaves which are entire margin serrate, or double serrate.
Other characteristics (besides bracts, which are also important) are the Corona filaments. Listed for coccinea, outer rank deep purple, and white or yellow at base. That also points to coccinea, as the others are different.
I would think if it is a species, coccinea fits.
thank you to Mr Vanderplank! Smiling
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Sep 27, 2015 2:59 PM CST
Name: greene
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I am learning a lot from this thread, thank you for showing me the importance of leaf shape. Thumbs up

This next bit is somewhat off topic as this is the ID thread and not an Edibles Forum, but I was asked yesterday which Passionflower(s) would be the best to grow for edible fruit. I am in zone 8b. Any suggestions?
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~"Leaf of Faith"
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Sep 27, 2015 5:49 PM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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I grew Passiflora edulis for some years. I had bought it from Logees. The vine doesn't have to be that huge to bear fruit and they were delicious. I did have to bring the plant inside in the Fall here in NJ, but the fruit continued to ripen inside. There are of course others.....
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