Plant ID forum: Tree Of Heaven (Ailanthus altissima)

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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)

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plantladylin
Oct 3, 2015 4:34 PM CST
:blinking: I am so googly-eyed from looking at hundreds of photos trying to figure out what trees these are and I still haven't found an exact match. Although difficult to see, the leaves appear to be alternate. With the third photo, I'm not real sure what's what; it looks like there are vines growing up through the tree.

Growing in zone 10a - Sebastian, Fl
Photos taken April 1, 2015
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Oct 3, 2015 7:29 PM CST
I think this is likely Ailanthus altissima commonly called Tree of Heaven. Everything looks right and those look to be vines growing up the trunk, but the trunk still looks right to me. Those that grow on my place even have those whitish blotches.
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)

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plantladylin
Oct 3, 2015 9:10 PM CST
Donald, that was my very first thought but this tree has alternate leaves, doesn't Ailanthus altissima have opposite leaves?
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)

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plantladylin
Oct 3, 2015 10:04 PM CST
@needrain Donald, Thank you so much for confirming that this is the Tree of Heaven. I had a few saplings sprout up in our yard a number of years ago and I sure thought it reminded me of those. I thought Ailanthus had opposite leaves but upon looking more closely at photos of stems and leaves of Ailanthus altissima, the leaves are indeed alternate.

I will have to tell my sister and brother in law about their invasiveness as there is a huge stand of really tall trees growing on the property line between their house and their next door neighbors. They are on the neighbors property but my sister and brother in law need to be aware of their invasiveness.

Thanks again!
Lin
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Oct 4, 2015 5:49 AM CST
Those things love property lines aka fence rows!

Donald
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Apr 23, 2017 11:39 AM CST
Can we revisit this one, because the leaflets don't appear to have lobes at their basis so I'm thinking it is not Ailanthus.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)

Region: United States of America Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Procrastinator
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plantladylin
Apr 23, 2017 2:53 PM CST
@sooby, I've submitted proposals to have my images deleted from the Ailanthus altissima database entry. The plants are growing in between my sisters and her neighbors property. Next time I'm down there I will get some better images and start a new thread for suggestions. I came across photos a couple of days ago when googling that looked identical to the plants in question but got sidetracked and now for the life of me I can't remember the name! Grumbling I will try again for a correct ID once I get closer and better photos. Green Grin!
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)

Region: United States of America Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Procrastinator
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plantladylin
Apr 23, 2017 3:26 PM CST
I'm wondering if the plants in question might be Winged Sumac (Rhus copallina) which are fairly common here in Florida. We have a small one growing at the corner of our property and I'm going to try to get a better look at it and then a closer look at those growing along the property line between my sister and her neighbor.
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Apr 23, 2017 3:31 PM CST
It doesn't look like there are wings on your mystery plant, Lin, and the leaves look narrower on the sumac. If you can get a close-up of a leaflet so we can see the teeth, if any, note whether the leaves are opposite or alternate, and if there are any leaf scars get a close-up of those it should help. Also a picture of the back of a leaf could be useful.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)

Region: United States of America Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Procrastinator
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plantladylin
Apr 23, 2017 3:36 PM CST
Will do, thanks so much @sooby!
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