Herbs forum: Spice it up...

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Name: Deb
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Oct 28, 2015 6:31 PM CST
Let's talk about our successes (and failures) growing spices. I've never tried any, but am quite interested in doing so. @Gardeningal replied in a previous thread, but I didn't want to derail that one, so started a new one here. She mentioned allspice being hardy in NY. I'm curious about that, and any others anyone has tried.
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Oct 28, 2015 6:52 PM CST
"Growing allspice bushes is easy. They adapt well to most soils and thrive in a variety of climates. The shrubs are hardy in U.S. Department of Agriculture hardiness zones 5b through 10a."
That is a quote from Gardening Know How. That is for the Carolina allspice bush.

The Allspice pimenta is the spice we are looking for, which is topical. We would need a hot house, or grow it indoors. I'm sure that someone would be able to grow the male and female Allspice in a protected area to be able to harvest the berries for the spice.

Otherwise, you can grow the former and crush the dried leaves for aromatic use.
Name: Linda
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Oct 28, 2015 8:40 PM CST
Well, let's see...I've grown Cilantro, which is used as both a spice (Coriander) and an herb. Also fennel, same thing.
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Name: Sandy B.
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Oct 29, 2015 4:26 PM CST
Or chili powder/cayenne pepper would count as a spice, made from dried hot peppers...

Does anyone have a good definition of a "spice" and an "herb" ? Am I right in thinking herbs are the leaves and maybe flowers (?) themselves, spices are made from the seeds, fruit, berries, bark, or whatever of a plant? This all seems so clear-cut until I actually start thinking about it, then it seems quite confusing!
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Name: Margaret
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Oct 29, 2015 4:45 PM CST
You are correct n your thinking Sandy
Delaware (Zone 7b)
Oct 29, 2015 5:43 PM CST
Yep, I will second that, Sandy and Margaret.
I was thinking of nutmeg, which will grow in hot tropical conditions, so zones 10 and 11. Unless of course you have a greenhouse. Or, better yet, a nice hot, area in your house. You also have to wait a few years for fruit (nut).
Oh well, looks like I am buying some from the grocery for this years baking and soups.

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