Plant Database forum: Another 'dislexia episode'?

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Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 8:22 PM CST
Zuzu, please help: There is a tiny Oxalis species with 'big' floweres (compared to the plant size) that grows where I live. I know it as Oxalis mallobolba, but did not find an entry.

The floweres are yellow, and on rare occassions creamish white.





Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Nov 1, 2015 9:04 PM CST
Synonym for Wood-Sorrel (Oxalis perdicaria)
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Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 9:19 PM CST
Thank you for your input, Jay, but I don't think it is the one I am looking for. The description says the flower size is 1" to 2". This Chilean native species has flowers not larger than 1 to 1.25 cm.

This Oxalis only blooms with the first rain of the year.

My Google-Chile image search gave results for Oxalis mallobolba. Maybe this species has to be added to the PDB?

Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Nov 1, 2015 9:22 PM CST
According to Catalogue of Life that is correct. Whether or not the images in our database are correct, I have no idea.
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 1, 2015 9:27 PM CST

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Jay's right. It's a synonym of O. perdicaria.

Wood-Sorrel (Oxalis perdicaria)
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 9:32 PM CST
This is a picture of the flowers - what do you say?


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Name: Zuzu
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Nov 1, 2015 9:32 PM CST

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The flower size information in our database may be wrong. Every oxalis entry says the blooms are 1"-2" because the parent plant has that information. Parent plant info is automatically added to every other Oxalis entry. If there are Oxalis blooms smaller than 1"-2", the information in the parent plant entry will have to be edited.
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 9:33 PM CST
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Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 9:33 PM CST
Thanks, Zuzu!
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 9:36 PM CST
Googling for my Oxalis, I just came across this page of Chilean native flora, with AMAZING pictures:

https://www.flickr.com/groups/floranativa/pool/page1
Name: Zuzu
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Nov 1, 2015 9:36 PM CST

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The blooms in your photo certainly look similar to the ones in the database, but I don't really know the fine points of Oxalis differentiation.

So many different species have been reclassified as synonyms of O. perdicaria that some differences would be inevitable. Here's a list of all the synonyms:

http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/f21a39...
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 9:59 PM CST
Zuzu, could you add O. mallobolba as a synonym? I would appreciate it, since it is the name most amateur Chilean native flora lovers know - it is the name provided by Dr. Paulina Riedemann (RIP) provided in her books on Chilean flora, the most popular ones.

Did you take a look at the link I provided above for spectacular pictures of Chilean flora?
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Nov 1, 2015 10:08 PM CST

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I did add O. mallobolba as a synonym before I gave you the link.

I'm saving the pictures to look at later. I have six people here for dinner, so I've been a little rushed all day. Smiling
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Nov 1, 2015 10:17 PM CST
Here is a link to Oxalis perdicaria on the Pacific Bulb Society site (scroll down). Note the bulbs match yours, Ursula. I also read somewhere that the color range includes cream colored blooms.

http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/SouthAmerica...
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 1, 2015 10:30 PM CST
As usual, Zuzu, you are right! I was not aware they also grow in Brazil and Argentina (The Andes mountains sort of isolate us), so I learned a few things today Big Grin I will post my pictures tomorrow (I'm delighted watching the link I found). Hope you have a great time with your guests!

Thank you, Connie - that's a very interesting link!

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