Bulbs forum: daffodil suggestions?

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pinkruffles
Nov 14, 2015 2:44 PM CST
I would like to have a daffodil that has white petals and a very deep orange or red/orange cup that holds its color. Can someone who grows them please give me some suggestions? Thanks so much for your help!! :)
central Illinois
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jmorth
Nov 15, 2015 9:38 AM CST
Kaydee is a wonderful daffodil w/ white petals and an orange (though called pink) cup that seems fairly sun stable
Cyclamineus Narcissus (Narcissus 'Kaydee')
It's not as plentiful in retail as once upon a time but still listed sometimes.
Another is Barrett Browning, (quite available)
Small-Cupped Daffodil (Narcissus 'Barrett Browning')
Another possible but probably not accessible is 'Capella' describtative listed as a 2 W - OOR daffodil (= large cup w/white petals, orange cup w/ red ring at rim). This was an English introduction just before last century turned 50. Descriptions noted Sunproof.

I've forced a/o grown the first two and both are at the top of my favorites.

I may think of more later...
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Nov 15, 2015 9:50 AM CST
One of my favorites is Barrett Browning, an early blooming small cup. Heavy bloomer, good increaser, with strong stems and upright blooms- excellent garden plant.

Cragford is a fragrant tazetta. I've only grown it for a year, so I can't say as to its growth habits yet, but the color and fragrance is nice.


A variety frequently offered in commerce is Professor Einstein. I found it to have weak stems that always ended up face down on the ground. The color wasn't sun proof either, it would appear to have bleached spots after a few days. I quit growing it several years ago.

Most of the whites with orange/red cups have cups that are more sunny orange than red. If that is acceptable you may want to consider 'Geranium', a fragrant tazetta that blooms mid to late and increases beautifully.
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sallysmom
Nov 18, 2015 7:58 PM CST
I am in zone 8b and adore Professor Einstein. The petals are blazing white---just amazing!!! The cup is also an amazing reddish orange.
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PA (Zone 6a)
pinkruffles
Nov 19, 2015 7:27 PM CST
It was so interesting to read all of your suggestions. Originally, I was really leaning toward Professor Einstein, but when I read Neal's comment about the weak stems, I decided to go with Barrett Browning. The thing that puzzles me about BB is that in some pictures the cup is a beautiful deep orange, but in other pictures it is more of a yellow-orange. Is that because of the quality of the soil, or the use of fertilizers, or the age of the bloom? And after reading Sally's mom's comments, I think I'm going to have to get some Professor Einstein too at some point. Thanks again everyone!
central Illinois
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jmorth
Nov 19, 2015 7:58 PM CST
'BB is that in some pictures the cup is a beautiful deep orange, but in other pictures it is more of a yellow-orange'

Are the pictures you're comparing from the same camera?
If not, that could be the problem, or, it could be another of the factors you postulated...
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Coastal South Carolina (Zone 8b)
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Suga
Nov 19, 2015 8:19 PM CST
I just planted British Gamble today. I haven't grown it before but it's supposed to be huge on strong stems -- trumpet, long cupped, white petals, cups are frilly pale lemon yellow that turn coral pink. I'm really looking forward to "the show". Zone 8b
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Nov 20, 2015 5:57 AM CST
The cup of Barrett Browning is yellow in the throat with a wide rim of orange. The intensity of the orange varies with weather, lighting, etc., and some photos capture more of the yellow throat too.

Good to hear Professor Einstein performs better elsewhere, it must dislike Kentucky springs. We tend to get lots of heavy rain and spring storms, the first one after the blooms open always had them laying flat, face down. That was always a good reason to cut them all and enjoy them inside.

Brent and Becky's offered a new one this year called Winter Waltz, a cyclamaneus with white petals and described as having a coral/pink cup, but the photo showed the cup looking more orange. I tried a few bulbs- looking forward to seeing what they really look like!
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sallysmom
Nov 20, 2015 6:45 AM CST
Neal, my soil is not rich at all. Maybe yours is and that plays a role in the reason Professor Einstein doesn't stand up.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Nov 20, 2015 7:01 AM CST
That's a good point, the soil was rich in the gardens where I grew Professor Einstein.

I was just looking through photos from this past spring and couldn't find any recent ones of Barrett Browning. I finally remembered that we had a hard freeze just before the buds opened. Normally all the daffs deal with cold just fine, but it was colder than usual that time- single digits if I recall correctly. Oddly it was the stems that were damaged more than the blooms themselves.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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