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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 17, 2015 12:27 PM CST
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Okay…so I know virtually nothing about Bonsai. My aims for my adenium trees are to keep them compact, and continue growing them in containers; at the same time, I would like to be able to transform them into somewhat of an artistic, yet natural look.
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Bonsai [bänˈsī, ˈbänˌsī]

NOUN
An ornamental tree or shrub grown in a pot and artificially prevented from reaching its normal size.
The art of growing ornamental, artificially dwarfed trees or shrubs.

The art of growing dwarfed, ornamentally shaped trees or shrubs in small shallow pots or trays.
A tree or shrub grown by this method.

Excerpt from http://www.bbg.org/gardening/article/succulent_bonsai:

Succulent Bonsai: Capturing the Spirit of the Desert
By Susan Amoy | December 1, 2014

Succulent plants are fascinating in their diversity of form. In the wild, they range from towering trees, such as Moringa ovalifolia, to inch-high "living stones," like Lithops karasmontana. Many succulents, such as aloes, sedums, and kalanchoes, have become staples in the American garden and home.

Now there is growing interest in applying bonsai techniques to succulents. Though it may seem like an odd matchup, bonsai practice can contribute much to our knowledge of succulent species, and succulents make interesting and unusual additions to bonsai collections.

Here is a list of succulent plants that can be used for bonsai. It is divided into three levels of difficulty based on the horticultural requirements of the plants. Species recommended for beginners can adapt to a fairly wide range of growing conditions. Plants listed as intermediate and advanced require higher levels of control.

Beginner:
• Adenium obesum (Desert rose)
• Brachychiton species (Australian bottle tree)
• Bursera fagaroides (Elephant tree)
• Cereus peruvianus var. monstruosus
• Chorisia speciosa (Floss silk tree)
• Crassula ovata (Jade plant)
• Erythrina species (Coral tree)
• Euphorbia francoisii
• Euphorbia milii (Crown of thorns)
• Jacaratia corumbenis (Dwarf papaya)
• Jatropha podagrica (Bottle plant)
• Mammillaria bocasana var. monstrosa (Snowball cactus)
• Moringa species
• Pachypodium saundersii (Madagascar palm tree)
• Plectranthus ernestii
• Portulacaria afra (Elephant bush)
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This is just some food for thought…I’ll be back soon with pictures of my Adenium “bonsai training.”
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 17, 2015 6:08 PM CST
I would like my tree:
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To eventually have a canopy like this one:
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But first, I have to do this:
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Heyyy...what can I say...this is my first time. Sticking tongue out
I happened to have the fancy ribbon on hand so used it instead of buying twine or wire.

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Later I will prune the branch tips so that there will be ramifications.
Comments are welcome. I'm all ears!

Two months ago this tree produced this bracket of blooms on one branch tip.
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 18, 2015 9:56 AM CST
Two-tiered treatment for Gigi?
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@GigiPlumeria, What do you think...any suggestions for her training?
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Nov 18, 2015 12:35 PM CST
Wow Oceania that is a beautiful looking Adenium! It looks to me like you have the right vision for this beautiful plant.

I don't know much about bonsai though but I know that Rick and Kadie are doing great with their bonsai creations/bonsai training.
©by Gigi Plumeria "Gardening is my favorite past time. I grow whatever plant that catches my attention." Plumeria Photos http://www.flickr.com/groups/calachuchi_plumeria_/ plant photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gigiplumeria/sets/
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Nov 18, 2015 12:37 PM CST
Duh! I just realized that Oceania you are Kadie... Rolling on the floor laughing

Pretty artistic and would love to see the progress of he two-tiered arrangement.
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 18, 2015 12:45 PM CST
I am so sorry for the confusion, Gigi...I am Kadie. I changed my user name to Rainbow. Also, I have included "Oceania" as the region I am located.

Sooo...I have barely begun bonsai treatment for "Gigi," the named tree above. I am tinkering with the idea of shortening the main stem to bring the tiers closer together. What do you think?
Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 18, 2015 12:46 PM CST
Gigi, we crossed posted. Hilarious!
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Nov 18, 2015 1:37 PM CST
I didn't know you could change your user name Confused
Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 18, 2015 1:41 PM CST
Yes you can...I asked Dave and he accommodated me.
Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Nov 24, 2015 2:04 PM CST
Rainbow said::
Two months ago this tree produced this bracket of blooms on one branch tip.


I have been trying to name this tree that I grew from seed, but just can't think of one.
Need help for naming, please.
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
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Rainbow
Jan 24, 2016 1:52 AM CST
So much for my first endeavor at bonsai training.... Sighing!

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Nov. 18, 2015

One of the branches was pulled down too tightly and it bent a bit causing rot at the bend...so I had to cut it off. I waited a couple of months to see how well the cut stem would branch.
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The cut stem branched out very well so I cut off the other stems.

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Jan. 20, 2016

Me thinks my future bonsai training will be limited to keeping overall plant size short and compact, as well as directing growth of branches, by diligent pruning. Sticking tongue out
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Name: Willeke
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Adeniumgirl
Jan 24, 2016 4:10 AM CST
To bad it did not work out Kadie. I can imagine you Will not try again. Luckily it did make new branches on the cut stem..
Love all plants
Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 24, 2016 9:23 AM CST
Hi Willeke,
I might do this again depending on my shaping goal for a tree...I now know where on a stem not to force too much tension. This certainly was a learning experience...learning by trial and error. Big Grin
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Jan 24, 2016 9:51 AM CST
That still looks really good. I think it will look nice once the other cut off stems will branch out.
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 24, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Thanks, Gigi! The other one I pre-bonsai'd is "Gigi." Will work with her next. Big Grin
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GigiPlumeria
Jan 24, 2016 10:17 AM CST
Hehe, Gigi for sure will be lovely!
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Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
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Rainbow
Apr 25, 2016 12:03 AM CST
Adenium obesum "Dr Dawg"

The following photos were taken September 12, 2015, after he was lifted.
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These next photos were taken today, April 25, 2016
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He's about 21 months old but still hasn't produced blooms...will pop the cork when it happens! Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Rick
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RCanada
Apr 25, 2016 7:01 AM CST
Beautiful form on this tree, Kadie. Looks so natural and this is what I like so much about it's style.
While perusing the photo's and scrolling down, thinking of the name you have given this.
Dr. Dawg. In the third photo, I started snickering Rolling on the floor laughing , because the caudex of the tree reminded me of a Dog sitting. Hind end down and front legs up.
Sorry, Ken. Not to make fun of you. It was just in the moment. Nice tree to hold your name.

Rick
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Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
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Rainbow
Apr 25, 2016 1:06 PM CST
Rick, I just knew the third photo wouldn't get past you without your noticing something about it! Sighing! The "endowment" was not intentional...there was a long root that needed to be cut out, but I didn't have a good tool at the time that I could get down under to smooth out the "belly." Now that I have a set of bonsai tools I can probably do a better job, including smoothing off the bumps on the legs.
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Name: Rick
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RCanada
Apr 25, 2016 5:55 PM CST
Kadie, I was speaking of the third photo in the April 25, 2016 group. Resembles a dogs sitting down.
Rick
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