Roses forum: Brothers Grimm Fairy Tale size

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Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Nov 18, 2015 6:35 PM CST
My first Brothers Grimm rose died last summer, so I ordered another one from Palatine. The first was own root from Chamblee but this one will be on multiflora. My first one only grew to about 2' tall and wide, but that's typical for all my Chamblee roses the first few years I have them. All my other Fairy Tale series roses have exceeded 6 FEET tall and wide, so I'm wondering what the eventual size of Brothers Grimm will be. It's listed as a 30" rose, but the others were only supposed to get 4', so I'm not sure what to expect. How large has it gotten for you? I'm trying to plant it where it has appropriate space to spread out.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Nov 18, 2015 6:55 PM CST

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It's the biggest fairy tale rose in my garden. I have one in part-shade, which has grown to about 4 feet tall and 3 feet wide, but the one in full sun is at least 6 feet tall and 5 feet wide.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Nov 18, 2015 7:07 PM CST

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Whoa! I forgot that Pomponella is also a fairy tale rose. Brothers Grimm is not as big as Pomponella.
Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Nov 18, 2015 7:42 PM CST
Thanks, Zuzu.
I'll have to find a new place for Brother, and it sounds like I may need to move my Pomponella too! The storm last night took out a few trees, so maybe this rose will take that spot.
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Name: Zuzu
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Nov 18, 2015 7:47 PM CST

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If your Pomponella's from Palatine, it's going to get huge. If it's from an own-root nursery, it will stay quite small.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Nov 19, 2015 5:18 PM CST
Cindi, Brothers Grimm planted this spring reached about 5' here and started arching. These fairy tale roses on multiflora root stocks act like they're on steroids!
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Nov 19, 2015 6:06 PM CST
That's really good growth for a first year rose, Neal! What did you feed it? Blood? Hilarious!
I think I'll plant it next to the Caramella Fairy Tale I just moved. I double checked today and every site lists those as growing to 3'. Rolling on the floor laughing Now I'm wondering about the rest of the roses I ordered. From what I found, the only one that is supposed to get huge is Honeymoon. Oh and of course 7 Sisters.

The others are
Marilyn Monroe 3-4' HT
Brigadoon 3-4' tall HT
Crescendo 5-6' HT
Soeur Emmanuelle 3-4' tall HT
Sunset Dreams 2x3' FB
Charles de Gaulle--didn't Toni say hers got really big? Palatine says 3-4'
Seven Sisters (10' )

The first 3 HT's do get a bit taller around here, but not wider.

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Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Nov 19, 2015 6:20 PM CST
No intentional blood offerings, but blood has been shed nonetheless, LOL! Fairy tale roses are pretty thorny! Otherwise I gave them manure, alfalfa pellets, and some organic garden fertilizer in spring a few weeks after planting, but that was it.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Porkpal
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Nov 19, 2015 7:46 PM CST
7 Sisters will not be likely to settle for 10'. She will also sucker enthusiastically - a wonderful rose! Give her plenty of room.
Porkpal

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