@JonnaSudenius
no tropical here Just a few canna's most of mine are going to be Outside perennials for z 5 I do have a few annuals ,
so you put the seeds in airtight containers in moist vermiculite & just pit outside sure going to try this fingers crossed .
@MrsBinWY' what color are the lipin's ?
@ luvsgrtdanes----what color is the Tithonia~ Rotundifolia & Tithonia~ Gold torch Looking for aa yellow & red one i have the ORANGE .
also do you have the colors of the hollyhocks ? or if any are dbl's ?
Flowering Tobacco (Nicotiana langsdorffii) color ?
I just want to say I'm still ver confused as to how this works but just going along there are so so many seeds That I Want to add to my gardens , I just cannot choose just a few

so leave it like this , I have a 16 acres 5 of it is wooded with trails so if you have any xtra seeds that would be happy in z5 woods I'd be very happy to try them.
Now i also have 15 sunny beds with Mostly daylilies & Irise's & hoping to plant other long lasting cottage type flowers that will grow good with them , also I have 1 Huge sunny Garden
where i want to grow Tall to medium type plants for birds , butterfly friendly so a couple types of Berry barring tree , Bush would be great to add to this spot

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can hardly wait to see what I will be able to plant this spring