Daylilies forum: I want a color too- PURPLE

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Name: Liz Quinn
Statesville, NC (Zone 7a)
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Emquinn
Jan 19, 2016 9:14 PM CST
My favorite is Indian Giver. What a beauty.
Liz
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Name: Maryl
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
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Maryl
Jan 20, 2016 1:06 AM CST
Pat: Soli Deo Gloria has been on my list for a couple of years now. It's just too pricey still for me to experiment with. But you are right about it being beautiful......Regina: Thanks for your input on Evening Enchantment. I've had a couple of other nice comments on it, and yours seals the deal.......Liz: Indian Giver was one of my first daylilies a decade or so ago. It didn't seem to like it here so it's moved on.......I don't suppose anyone here has grown Buffalo Thunder. Way too expensive for me and the price doesn't seem to be going down very rapidly. Must be good somewhere...........Maryl
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Name: Pat
Near McIntosh, Florida (Zone 9a)
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Xenacrockett
Jan 20, 2016 12:12 PM CST
I have lots of purple noid seedlings
(thinking of naming my place "Noid Gardens"):

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Name: Pat Strong
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Pat236
Jan 20, 2016 12:25 PM CST
CaliFlowers said:

Soli Deo Gloria was a real star here last season, on a large, spring-planted double fan. It opened well despite cool nights, and held its color very well throughout warm days under, dry, cloudless skies. It came directly from Karol Emmerich, and performed exactly as she describes—a bit of water-spotting or thrip damage on the first couple of blooms, and nearly flawless after that.

Ken

Thanks for that report...I will probably pay the premium price to get it. It is one of my favorite purples on paper.
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Name: Maryl
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
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Maryl
Jan 20, 2016 3:09 PM CST
Those are beautiful Noids Fla.Pat (seems like a lot of Pats that are into daylilies -lol). I love edges, so that 4th and 5th one down certainly stand out. Looks like the color on some leans more to the wine colors too. We really don't get purple in my climate, but rather some shade/tone of maroon. Mary's Baby for instance is closest to purple, but that's with a little imagination thrown in. She's still hard to beat though..........Soli Deo Gloria is as I said on my list too. And I thank Ken very much for his welcome review. But San Francisco has a different summer climate then ours so again it's rather pricey for my budget to see how it holds up in our high heat. Plus it's only listed with 16 buds and NO repeat. As tempted as I am, there are some others that I think I'll try first while I wait for the price to come down.....Still no Buffalo Thunder???............Maryl
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jan 20, 2016 4:23 PM CST
Your #2 noid looks like my Tranquil Waters


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Name: Ken
East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
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CaliFlowers
Jan 30, 2016 6:01 PM CST
Maryl said: But San Francisco has a different summer climate then ours so again it's rather pricey for my budget to see how it holds up in our high heat. Plus it's only listed with 16 buds and NO repeat.


The East Bay Area doesn't really share San Francisco's mild, cloud forest-like weather. I think I understand what you mean about heat, but with daylilies, heat is generally your friend, although too much of it does require management. Daylilies in cool, inconsistent weather can be pretty dismal, because they don't seem to like wide day/night temperature swings. What's your humidity like during bloom season?

Picture taken here, 2015-08-16, 2:00 pm
92ºF, 29% relative humidity.
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Same plant, 10 days earlier, during a stretch of pleasant,
weather, with overnight dew and 50%+ humidity.
FFO on the rebloom scape


Even on an 80º day, many purples and reds look stressed, sad and dull by noon because of the cloudless skies and low humidity, and this is compounded by the fact that our cool (typically under 60º by sunset) summer nights don't allow the opening buds to swell to capacity, further exacerbating the effects of the dry heat. This is why early openers are valuable—their segments swell up early, and don't start the day out with "flat tires". I've shared a lot of plants with family living forty miles further inland, closer to Sacramento, where the summer days are 90º and up, with even lower humidity, but the flowers open extremely well and behave much more "normally" due to the 65º overnight lows and extended warm evenings (it's usually still 80º at midnight), although most of the dark-flowered ones should still be called "Morninglilies".

Performance information for Soli Deo Gloria varies. Karol lists 20 buds and rebloom, the AHS database shows 20 buds, no rebloom listed, ATP says 16-20, no mention of rebloom. I received a big two-fan plant, and since they weren't strongly attached, I separated them—one in the sun for show-and-grow, and one in the shade for pod-setting, but it turned out to be unnecessary, as they both set pods easily, and had rebloom scapes showing before the first set were through. I didn't count buds, but 20 sounds about right, maybe fewer on rebloom.

I really wanted Buffalo Thunder too, but with my erratic weather, I have to be selective and do lots of "Daylily Math" before I spend big bucks. I can usually approach published performance data on northern daylilies, while Florida-bred plants never seem to branch or bud as well as they do at home, probably because of the cool, slow-onset spring weather here. Cool nights don't exactly suit flowers with huge edges, teeth, and intricate patterns, but the northern plants tend to bloom more like their pictures. I appreciate the detail and objectivity of Karol's descriptions, because it helps me figure out if something might do well for me. The ATP database is also extremely helpful when selecting plants, because I can see how the flowers do in different regions. Pictures of "real-world" blooms are probably worth 2000 words.

Like all daylilies, Soli Deo Gloria and Buffalo Thunder will be $20 and under before you know it. With a registered 42" scape, 6-way branching, 7.75" flower and 40 buds, Buffalo Thunder should manage to impress, even here, so I'll be trying to wrangle a piece of it some time later this year.
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jan 30, 2016 8:19 PM CST
Maryl said:Thanks again Donald. I accept some fading of course. Even Bela Lugosi doesn't look prime at 7 PM after a day in the 90's, but it's still a recognizable deep purple. I know this color is hard to come by and presume that's why the purple "Larry's Obsession" was named as such - because a good purple (like a mate) is hard to find.........Anyone grown Evening Enchantment perhaps?.......Maryl


Funny you should mention evening enchantment because I do grow it. (I had a hard time hybridizing with it this year, but we'll see how it is once it's more established and not upset about being transplanted).

Here's a picture I have of mine in the database:



As you can see, it's more of a deep reddish color than the purple I thought you were looking for, but it's a beautiful plant. It looks like it is made from velvet. Looking at the photo, it appears to have a white edging that I don't remember seeing on it. Maybe it was a trick of the light? I'll have to look at my other pictures to be sure, but I do think you would like Evening Enchantment a lot, even if it might not be the purple you are looking for. I do remember it holding its color very well, I have it in a spot that receives full sun (although mine is *somewhat* shaded from afternoon sun....somewhat.).
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jan 30, 2016 8:21 PM CST
Maryl said:Pat: Soli Deo Gloria has been on my list for a couple of years now. It's just too pricey still for me to experiment with. But you are right about it being beautiful......Regina: Thanks for your input on Evening Enchantment. I've had a couple of other nice comments on it, and yours seals the deal.......


I just saw this. I'm glad you're going to get it, I think you'll really like it! If you can't find it, for some reason, let me know and I'll give you the contact info of where I purchased it from.
Name: Maryl
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
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Maryl
Feb 1, 2016 3:11 PM CST
Ken: When I talk about heat here I mean high heat coupled with our ever present high humidity. The first round of heat usually hits mid May. We can easily go over 95 and stay there from June to the end of September - 1st of October, with the heat index (if not the actual temperature) in the triple digits. Heck, I've had daylilies blooming in 112 degree heat. And almost as importantly to the plants, there is very little cool down at night......You are right about daylilies coming down in price, it just seems that Buffalo Thunder has hung in there at a high price for longer then most. Maybe it's a great hybridizer's plant or maybe it's the old watched pot syndrome..........DND: That photo of yours for Evening Enchantment is wonderful. I love the velvety petals. Just adds to my resolve to get it this spring..........Maryl

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