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Name: Juli
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daylily
Aug 28, 2011 10:01 PM CST
Fred, I am glad to see that you are keeping the seedlings that are cristating.

You have some really neat things coming on!
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spunky1
Aug 29, 2011 4:17 AM CST
The seedling that is cristating is also pretty nice when it doesn't do that.
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Hemlady
Aug 29, 2011 6:16 AM CST
Cristating??? I have been into daylilies for 15 years plus and have never heard that term before. What exactly does it mean please??
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Name: Juli
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daylily
Aug 29, 2011 6:53 AM CST
Here is the link to the definition on the AHS terms page. There are photos there to show examples. It is a form of sculpting. The examples shown are of "midrib cristating."
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...

"A form of sculpting that refers to appendages of extra petal tissue growing from the midrib or elsewhere on the surface of the petals. When the extra tissue grows from the midribs, the form is called Midrib Cristate."
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Name: Juli
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Aug 29, 2011 6:58 AM CST
However, if you look under "sculpting," you will see another type of Cristating. On SIGOURNEY. the extra tissue comes from the throat area instead of the midrib.
http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...
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Hemlady
Aug 29, 2011 9:08 AM CST
Oh ok, like the daylily Michael's Sword??? I didn't know what they called that.
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AlwaysWeeding
Aug 29, 2011 9:53 AM CST
Love that latest pic. Hope that one is winter hardy.
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Betja
Aug 29, 2011 12:44 PM CST
I love it too!
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dahtzu
Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CST
I have never seen a Daylily that wasn't pretty, and certainly haven't seen one I didn't want. Drooling
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tink3472
Aug 30, 2011 4:00 AM CST
If I wasn't moving and had a place for more daylilies, Fred would wake up one morning and find a bunch of empty holes where those seedlings are!!! LOL Whistling Whistling Whistling
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spunky1
Aug 31, 2011 3:18 AM CST
She's really a sweet lady.
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mcash70
Aug 31, 2011 8:56 AM CST
Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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philljm
Aug 31, 2011 5:04 PM CST
If I didn't live so far north, Fred would find even more holes. And don't think I haven't thought of detouring whenever I make the every other month drive down to Arkansas to check up on my ex father-in-law.... Big Grin
Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
Pippi21
Sep 2, 2011 6:23 PM CST
Daylily seedlings..their blooms look so mature..why are they referred to as seedlings? If you plant a daylily in the Fall, will it bloom the next Spring? Is that what you are referring to as a seedling? Just like perennials that don't bloom the first year? How old does a daylily have to be to form a nice clump with numerous blooms?
Name: Michele
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tink3472
Sep 2, 2011 8:09 PM CST
Fred will correct me if I'm wrong of course Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing and can add more to it as well.
A daylily seedling is an unregistered daylily. It will always be refered to as a seedling for as long as it is around if it is not registered with AHS and given a name.
Most of the time when a daylily is planted in the fall it will bloom the next spring, but sometimes they don't. It depends on your zone. Now seedlings are different since they have to grow to a mature plant. Fred usually sees blooms the first year if they are planted in the ground in time. But in more northern climates it take 2-3 years to see blooms on seedlings. All daylilies are different in how they increase and form clumps. I've had some that I planted last fall as a double fan and they are now 8-10 fan clumps. And then I have some that have only increased by 1 fan. Again, zones play a big role in it. Here in the South (unlike the last 2 years) it doesn't get very cold so our season starts earlier than the colder climates. Now as far as blooms go, you can have a 1 year old daylily produce tons of blooms especially if they have rebloom. It depends on bud count as well; some have 10-15 bud count and some have 40 bud count. I had one older daylily that was a nice clump produce 1 scape with 2 blooms. General rule of thumb though is give a daylily at least 2 years. A lot of times the first year it's planted (even if it came from a mature plant) it could have less blooms, shorter scapes, duller coloring and such. Hope this answers some of your questions.
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Betja
Sep 2, 2011 8:26 PM CST
Wow, Tink, you give excellent explanations! I'm impressed!!!
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mcash70
Sep 2, 2011 8:28 PM CST
I agree Very good Michele!!! Thumbs up
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spunky1
Sep 3, 2011 4:41 AM CST
I told you guys she was a nice lady and smart for being so young.

As you may know we have a tropical storm setting on top of us for the next several days, suppose to get 20" of rain, the way it's rained since yesterday I believe them. This seems to happen every year as soon as I get the babies planted, it will wash some of them away. I did try to divert some of the water this time so we will see if it helped. You can see how small they are, they haven't had a chance to root to the ground yet.
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Name: Juli
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daylily
Sep 3, 2011 10:34 AM CST
Oh, Fred! That is so sad. That is a LOT of rain on those babies!

Pippi, I have plants here that are still "seedlings" that are 15 years old - and will always be "seedlings" because I never intend to name them, but I do intend to keep them. I do not give them "garden names" - they go by a cross number, or a description name - "the narrow purple seedling" "the bud builder seedling" "T-00-149-A1"

Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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spunky1
Sep 4, 2011 3:36 AM CST
The babies made it ok with the first 7" yesterday, it has rained all night, will check them at daybreak for damage. Will rain all day and into tomorrow, I am suppose to ship Tuesday, may have to put that off.

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