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Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:04 PM CST
I am grinding up clean no dye and unprinted paper with moss and sand and a spoonful of greensand For starter pots ,, All mixed together

Only a place to start ,, talk about anything your mood to . Smiling
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:11 PM CST
Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Are you using this mix for specific plants or is it meant to be a general-purpose starting mix? What kind of moss are you using?
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:17 PM CST
A couple of seed starter mixes from the bags that did not do as well as could of . The mixes seem to need some mineral and water retention assistance Only moss I add is some of the carpet moss around here , the Sphagnum is in the mixes already ,
Meant to be a general purpose use ,
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:23 PM CST
When you said "moss", my brain went right to the green stuff outdoors rather than peat moss. Have you tried using a little bit of vermiculite for water retention? For the longest time, I used to think it was for improving drainage. Boy, was I wrong.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:30 PM CST
There is enough Vermiculite in one of the bags , the green sand helps as might a few additives after some thought ,
The first part of this without the Vermiculite and sand makes good worm bedding with a puree whipped banana peel ,,
That makes a good starter additive after the worms are through
I don't have many for the time being (the worms) . But they will be back munching shortly .
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:31 PM CST
You had to include the banana puree! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:36 PM CST
After a lot of this occurs, it is not a bad additive , I have this nearly a foot long at one side of the house

" The Green stuff "
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I have green carpets "out there" Blinking
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 5:37 PM CST
I do have a beautiful patch of moss that I actually weed during the growing season. Just never thought of using it as part of a growing meadium.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 5:41 PM CST
A few seasons ago Mine Bloomed ,,The carpet moss , I keep looking for sets where it grow under and between pots ,
It also makes oxygen like algae does ..

Yes the puree Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! What would a mix be without worms Confused Hilarious! Thumbs up
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 6:02 PM CST
Very interesting about the oxygen. How to utilize that...
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 6:40 PM CST
Have to find an article someplace , Use to have a few ,,
Only a interesting fact to me too I agree
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 1, 2016 6:59 PM CST
Would be interested to hear about it.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
Birds Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers
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jimard8
Feb 1, 2016 7:30 PM CST
Here is one , not super but good , Moss making it's own food and Oxygen ,,

http://home.howstuffworks.com/...
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 2, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Let me get this straight in my head. You'll be using dried moss? mixed in the soil? So it's going to be more of a water-holding tool than creating the oxygen (air space) in the soil? Acting sort of like properly dampened peat moss?
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
Birds Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 10:18 AM CST
Sure Cindy , That's what I'm doing , as I have before . Thing is though ,, it will still grow sometimes ,,
Moss driving up the wall ,, lots of this
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In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
Birds Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 10:31 AM CST
Bulb pot sets and Venus Flytrap's might like it as is I don't do that usually , Although I might try some for the Amaryllis mix ?
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
Shadegardener
Feb 2, 2016 11:34 AM CST
I wonder if you have a different type of moss than I do. Mine's all flat and very short - sort of like indoor/outdoor carpet. Yours looks like it has longer strands.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
Birds Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 11:47 AM CST
I have that in the pot above very short and small . The mature moss that is growing up the Blocks and sides of pots , May be the other referred to as short southern Sphagnum , They grow this near Cicero a great big field of moss for marketing ,,
Not all from Canada ....
A lot of the times they look exactly the same , other times not so much ,, Two types of carpet moss ,
If I feed the moss , the longer type blooms and seeds
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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RickCorey
Feb 2, 2016 12:04 PM CST
I ordered some plants from Hirt's Nursery once. They came in tiny cells, like 1.5 inch square by 2 inches deep.

The surface was covered very tightly with moss.

At first I thought it was a cool way to keep potted plants from shedding soil during shipping - the moss held the soil surface together.

Then I realized it was just sloppy: the surface also had strands of grass and weeds in amongst the moss. They had just pulled up clumps of soil with seedlings (or cuttings) from a very unweeded bed and shipped wherever came out.

Plus, they had advertised Lavatera thuringiaca var. 'Barnsley', a valuable "periclinal chimaera" but sent L.thuringiaca var. 'Rosea', the most common and cheapest variety.

Maybe it reverted to the non-chimaera form, but it sure reverted before even one 'Barnsley' flower showed itself.
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Seed Starter Dragonflies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Frogs and Toads Garden Procrastinator Cottage Gardener
Birds Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Indiana Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Native Plants and Wildflowers
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jimard8
Feb 2, 2016 12:15 PM CST
I have some of it growing on old carpets ,outdoors , hence possibly ,, Carpet Moss ,, couldn't be , that graphic to name ,,
A good way to grow moss , (this one anyway ) peck it clean . mix it with buttermilk , sweet milk ,, , put a little on a few old cement or asphalt blocks , Put the towel down on the blocks , Dirty it a bit and weight it down slightly ,, poof moss everywhere ,,

What is charged for it is extreme ,,,

Also I dug out a compost bin type worm bin once , covered it with a wooden board cover , Had Giant Sphagnum growing over a foot tall for a while ,, looked like Ferns ,, was cool looking
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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