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Feb 2, 2016 12:40 PM CST
Name: Liz
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As I'm placing orders this year I am finding that there are certain irises that are very similar in color and style. I feel like the logical thing to do is just pick one of the two varieties, but I keep finding myself wanting them both despite their similarities! What are some similar irises that you all have come across that you just needed to have both?
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Feb 2, 2016 12:48 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Feb 2, 2016 1:04 PM CST
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I want both of those too! Green Grin!

An easier question for me is "which ones have I come across that I didn't want".
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Feb 2, 2016 1:11 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
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Those two are a perfect example! I ordered Gloriafied Glenn from Stout, but I have Patchwork Puzzle down on my want list from Mid-America.
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Feb 2, 2016 1:33 PM CST
Name: Debra
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If in a position to get both (of whichever two you are considering), grow them together. Odds are you will like one over the other and can rehome the one you like less. Or choose a preferred bloom season to decide which to get. I tend to avoid those described as having a Mid bloom season. Just a couple of ideas. Smiling

Edited: Oh, yeah, and be sure to look at other resources for images. For example, ATP and the Iris twiki may show you that images in 'real' folks' gardens are enough different from the vendor's images that you can make an easier decision.
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Feb 2, 2016 2:27 PM CST
Name: Tom
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I agree with what's been said above. It's all in your personal taste, space, and funding limits. If there are limitations to money and space, you might choose one, and make room for something else. If they are really alike and you really love them and one blooms early, and one blooms late, you get the long season to enjoy that look.
Black Magic Woman blooms early, and Sharp dressed man blooms later (mid season). They are similar in color.

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Feb 2, 2016 2:55 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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I hadn't thought about the bloom time Tom. Extending the time you get to enjoy that "look" is a plus.
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Feb 2, 2016 3:58 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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We had a couple of irises of similar color. When one stopped blooming, the other one would take over.
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Feb 2, 2016 4:04 PM CST
Name: Jen Jax
Northern Kentucky (Zone 6a)
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I agree I have both patchwork puzzle and glorified Glenn on my want list also!
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Feb 2, 2016 5:04 PM CST
Name: Niki
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I wish I knew more about sizes. When I take pictures I think I might include a ruler next to the flower. I think Blake's Achey Heart and Bronze Heart look so similar in the pictures. I also think Are we in love and (It's child) Matters of the Heart look similar. I want the best pinks, and since I haven't been to many gardens this forum is helping me decide. I also wish I knew if the ones I like produce more stocks or blooms than the other.
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Feb 2, 2016 5:22 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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I thought these two would look very similar, but see how my Ring Around Rosie looks here, by comparison to the one just left of it. This was it's maiden bloom, so maybe I can expect more color this year ??
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Feb 2, 2016 5:28 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
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Tom, I like your idea of similar but different seasons. I also like the concept of placing them next to each other to prolong blooms of a certain coloration. This would make it easier for me to match complimentary colors when designing my beds.

How similar is House Arrest and Advanced Features? Each picture I see is slightly different, some make them look noticeably different, and others make them look so similar that it's hard to tell which is which.
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Feb 2, 2016 5:53 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Advanced Features seems to be a lighter tint of a similar pattern. When there are several pictures of one iris, and one sticks out as being much darker or much lighter, you can usually attribute that to camera and/or lighting differences. I assume that the majority color is more accurate.
Here's House Arrest. I really like this one.
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Feb 2, 2016 8:00 PM CST
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I just clicked on Oreo from the recent pictures added to the database. All the pictures in the database look very close in color. I think that is unusual for 'all' of them to look so close.
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Feb 2, 2016 8:35 PM CST
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I should be under "House Arrest" for how many irises I want.

House Arrest sure is a beauty that I must order one day.
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Feb 3, 2016 4:53 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I think many times the darker colors sometimes come out more accurate.
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Feb 3, 2016 5:21 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I have a micro climate next to the house where irises always bloom first. I've found that if I'm interested in using some later blooming irises on earlier blooming ones to make crosses I can put the later bloomer near the house, and the earlier bloomer out farther, and they bloom closer so I can make the crosses. I also have put some in both places so I have access to them for crosses for a longer season. If it's a favorite of yours, you could do the same thing just so you could enjoy it longer. Smiling (Provided you have a micro climate some where.) I'm also experimenting with having a "very late" bed where I put later bloomers in an area with a bit of shade. Any thing to extend the season!
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Feb 3, 2016 8:51 AM CST
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HighdesertNiki said: I also think Are we in love and (It's child) Matters of the Heart look similar. I want the best pinks, and since I haven't been to many gardens this forum is helping me decide. I also wish I knew if the ones I like produce more stocks or blooms than the other.


Having seen them growing near each other, I'd say Are We In Love is "pinker" than Matters of the Heart. The flowers on Matters of the Heart are more to the peach end of the spectrum than pink, and are also paler than those of of Are We In Love.
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Feb 3, 2016 8:55 AM CST
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Dachsylady86 said:

How similar is House Arrest and Advanced Features? Each picture I see is slightly different, some make them look noticeably different, and others make them look so similar that it's hard to tell which is which.


The big difference between House Arrest and Advanced Features is in substance and form. The flowers of House Arrest have heavier substance and more ruffles than those of Advanced Features.
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Feb 3, 2016 9:02 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Kent, your observations are hugely valuable to me! Thank You! Thumbs up I love scrutinizing blooms and observing the subtle differences.

It makes me want to grow the similar ones for that very reason. Iris fandom truly is like heading down the rabbit hole Rolling on the floor laughing
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