All Things Gardening forum: Heirloom Chrysanthemums

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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Feb 14, 2016 5:59 PM CST
I ordered several mums from ACCENTS FOR HOME AND GARDEN

http://site.mawebcenters.com/a...

Chrysanthemum koreana 'Mei Kyo', Chrysanthemum pacificum, Chrysanthemum pacificum 'Pink Ice', Chrysanthemum rubellum 'Cleo's Pink', Chrysanthemum rubellum 'Legal Pad Yellow', Chrysanthemum rubellum 'Sheffield Yellow’, Chrysanthemum rubellum 'Venus'

the Mei Kyo and Sheffield Yellow are known heirlooms. Cleo's Pink and Legal Pad are suspect:)

Venus is grown from seed so results are variable.

At any rate, the price was right, $5 each for 4" pots. I have not ordered from Accents before. I will post results later this year.
Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Moonhowl
Feb 29, 2016 4:51 PM CST
@frankrichards16

Hi Frank. Are you familiar with this site?
http://plantlust.com/search/?g...
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Dec 21, 2018 10:00 AM CST
Chrysanthemum rubellum 'Sheffield Pink', Common Name: Garden Mum , Size: 2-3ft., apricot pink with cocoa undertones, Breeder: (Heirloom), USDA Hardiness Zone 5, Michigan Bloom Month 10b

Missouri Botanical Gardens: Hillside Sheffield Pink' (synonymous with and also known as 'Sheffield Pink' and 'Single Apricot') is a clump-forming, fall-blooming garden mum that typically grows 2-3' tall and as wide. Single daisy-like apricot pink flowers with golden yellow centers cover this plant with a profuse bloom from late summer to frost. Flowers are attractive to butterflies. Lobed, medium green leaves (to 2" long). Synonymous with and sometimes listed for sale as a cultivar of Dendranthemum.

Purchased from SelectSeeds in 2015. Moved to a new location in 2017, did not bloom in 2018.

Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Dec 21, 2018 10:05 AM CST
Wow, that is beautiful!! Lovey dubby
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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Dec 23, 2018 8:32 AM CST
Chrysanthemum rubellum 'Sheffield Yellow', Common Name: Hardy Garden Mum , Size: 2-3ft., gold, Breeder: (Heirloom), USDA Hardiness Zone 4-9, Michigan Bloom Month 10-11

Family Asteraceae (ass-ter-AY-see-ee). Heirloom. An old fashioned mum.

Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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wildflowers
Dec 23, 2018 9:04 AM CST
Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Gorgeous!
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Name: Shawn S.
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 26, 2018 4:30 PM CST
@frankrichards16 I am just now starting to get seed catalogs (including plants, of course.) Now, the trouble starts with having to make lists, from where I want to obtain all the ones I would like to order. Meanwhile, there are already plants, roots, tubers, rhizomes & rooted cuttings that may take priority, over Marigold seeds ( from Burpee ) for about $6 a pkt. Glare which appear more like a Chrysanthemum...
I am uncertain how old a mum variety must be, for consideration as an 'heirloom' as by now, some of the rooted cuttings I may want, possibly qualify. That is, depeneding on the age of the cultivar I select.
Do you by any chance know, the age requirement, to qualify as "heirloom" for mums? & what about what used to be 'Shasta Daisy', is it in now Chrysanthemum, or still Leucanthemum?
I can't always recall things, as easily as I used to!
Thanks, Shawn
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Dec 26, 2018 4:58 PM CST
@ShawnSteve
Missouri Botanical Gardens: Leucanthemum x superbum, commonly called Shasta daisy, is a hybrid developed by Luther Burbank (1849-1926) in the 1890s near snow covered Mt. Shasta in northern California. Burbank crossed Leucanthemum vulgare (European oxeye daisy), Leucanthemum maximum (Pyrenees chrysanthemum), Leucanthemum lacustre (Portuguese field daisy) and Nipponanthemum nipponicum (Japanese field daisy) to produce Leucanthemum x superbum which was given the common name of Shasta daisy.

Leucanthemums were formerly included in the genus Chrysanthemum.

Also from Missouri Botanical Gardens: Nipponanthemum nipponicum, commonly called Nippon daisy, is a shrubby perennial which grows 1.5-3' tall. Features 2-3" diameter flower heads with white rays and green center disks. Flowers appear in fall on long stalks. Thick, oblong, coarsely-toothed, glossy, dark green leaves (to 3.5" long). Excellent and long-lasting fresh cut flower. Formerly known as Chrysanthemum nipponicum.

As far as Garden Mums, there is no specific definition as to how old it has to be to qualify.
Name: Shawn S.
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
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ShawnSteve
Dec 26, 2018 5:07 PM CST
Thanks Frank. I just get overwhelmed at times, by all these created hybridized plants & it can be quite a bit of information, to remember all of it... Then, even if I write down orders, planning well in advance, some years, the time has actually run out & it is June, before you know it!
Name: Shawn S.
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
Butterflies Morning Glories Annuals Irises Dahlias Zinnias
Orchids Region: United States of America Peonies
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ShawnSteve
Dec 27, 2018 3:05 PM CST
@frankrichards16 Here's a photo of one cutting from mail order, that I grew. I think it was 'Fleur de lis'
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Name: Shawn S.
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
Butterflies Morning Glories Annuals Irises Dahlias Zinnias
Orchids Region: United States of America Peonies
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ShawnSteve
Dec 28, 2018 11:14 AM CST
This one, was called' 'Senkyo Kenshin', if I recall the name properly... This was a gigantic sized flowers, well, at least amongst some of Mums I grew anyway. At nearly ten inches across with.nice metallic brownish bronze, with some softer shading, along the outer petal tips. I had some difficulty, with producing seeds, but I tried...


Name: Shawn S.
Hampton, Virginia (Zone 8b)
Butterflies Morning Glories Annuals Irises Dahlias Zinnias
Orchids Region: United States of America Peonies
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ShawnSteve
Dec 28, 2018 11:31 AM CST
Here is one more, I grew. I have to order more this upcoming new year, as one winter was very severe & lost quite a few ( as I grew them potted,- & left outside in winter.), It might be
Chesapeake, White Rain, or maybe even Icicles. I forgot...
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