Plant ID forum: Mystery Rhizomes

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Feb 20, 2016 8:03 AM CST
***UPDATE***

It's not Canna ... it's Smilax bona nox. I potted up one that looked like it was putting on new growth and what was coming out was very uncanna like so I dug up one of the Smilax that was growing in my yard and found the rhizomes. No wonder this stuff is so hard to get rid of!

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First photo is the original picture. Second photo is the one I took today.

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Feb 20, 2016 8:18 AM CST
Canna rhizomes look like that ..

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Feb 20, 2016 8:37 AM CST
Thanks Janet! I believe you're right! It's been over a decade since I grew canna (got tired of fighting leaf rollers) and switched to gingers - I guess I forgot what they looked like! Funny, I didn't notice any canna in the hump last Summer .. may have been buried to deep.
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JRsbugs
Feb 20, 2016 9:05 AM CST
I haven't grown any Cannas for a few years either, cold winters made it too hard to keep them alive even in a cold greenhouse and I can't be bothered lifting them. I've just been canna hunting, ho hum. Hilarious!
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purpleinopp
Feb 20, 2016 11:24 AM CST
I enjoyed Cannas more when I had to overwinter them. Where I am now, the leaf rollers are relentless. And Cannas never stop creeping. They must have a hard barrier & a place to themselves.
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Arico
Feb 20, 2016 11:31 AM CST
Calla lily or Canna
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Feb 20, 2016 11:44 AM CST
Canna Lily - Tiffany is right they can get out of hand real quick! When I had them it only took 2 years for them to over run a bed. My favorites were Bengal Tiger and Chocolate Cherry.
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Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Xeramtheum
Mar 1, 2016 12:37 PM CST
Canna is wrong ID for this plant ... it's Smilax bona nox.
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dave
Mar 1, 2016 12:38 PM CST

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Smilax is the right ID.
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Mar 1, 2016 1:02 PM CST
Since Janet had ID'd it, I didn't even make the pic bigger. It does look like a baby Smilax. The bona-nox species has variegated leaves. The leaves in the pic in question don't look variegated to me but may be hard to tell with the damage.
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 1, 2016 1:12 PM CST
I've got these all over my yard and keep hitting it with weed killer .. now I'm going to start digging them up!
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JRsbugs
Mar 1, 2016 2:30 PM CST
The addition (substitution) of a photo of leaves makes all the difference! It would have been a good idea to leave the original photo?

BTW, canna rhizomes was only a suggestion, not a definite ID.
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Leftwood
Mar 1, 2016 3:29 PM CST
Agree wholeheartedly with Janet!!!!

Identifications can only be as good as the descriptions given.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 1, 2016 3:33 PM CST
Hey Janet .. no problem! I think you are absolutely amazing! They didn't have leaves when they were first dug up ... and your right about leaving the original photo .. I'll see if I can find it.
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