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Name: Prabhi Setty
Trinidad West-Indies
prabhisetty
Mar 3, 2016 6:03 PM CST
HI guys ,
I have a hose on liquid dispenser uses only liquids, my question is there any formula for making a stock solution and use at a later date by using required amount of stock solution to be used as foliar spray .
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Xeramtheum
Mar 3, 2016 9:16 PM CST
Hi Prabhi - you're going to love your hozon siphon mixer. Here's what you need to know. I use Miracle Grow and mix up 1 cup of Miracle Grow to 1 gallon of water. I use an empty cat litter jug for the solution.

You'll want to mix it a day before you want to use it as the granules take a while to fully dissolve unless you use very hot water. Mark off a 1 gallon spot on what ever jug you are using. Fill up the jug with water then dump in the 1 cup of Miracle Grow or whatever tablespoon per gallon fertilizer you wish to use. Put the cap on the jug and shake it really well. Shake it again a few hours later and the next morning, shake it again to make sure the granules have dissolved.

You'll also want to use either a fan sprayer or simple watering wand with a shut off valve in the handle - not the trigger type. Do not use a watering wand that has multiple settings for spray type and a hand trigger. The reason being that when you start restricting the flow of water you're going to lose your siphon.

Mine works perfectly on a 100 foot hose.
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Name: Anna Z.
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AnnaZ
Mar 3, 2016 10:30 PM CST
My hose length for outside watering in the summer is probably 150 feet. Is there a siphon that will work with that length? I tried on several years ago and didn't know till AFTER I bought it I had too much hose. I don't like the Miracle Grow one you put on the end of the hose............too much fiddling around. In the winter I just dump the needed amount into my 200 gallon tank in the greenhouse and water everything that way. It's the summer fertilizing that gets to be a pain. We're talking at LEAST 60 large pots.
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CarolineScott
Mar 4, 2016 6:24 AM CST
Lee Valley Tools sells one that works fairly well for me.
It attaches to a tap.
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Name: Anna Z.
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AnnaZ
Mar 4, 2016 6:48 AM CST
Thank you. I will check that out.

Back to do a quick edit.................hmmmm............exactly WHAT is it called? Any keywords I put in didn't bring anything up.
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Xeramtheum
Mar 4, 2016 8:51 AM CST
Anna, I'd be willing to bet that if you used a non restrictive fan spray or watering wand like I described, it probably would work for 150 ft hose .. also, cut the rubber siphon hose so that I only lays on the bottom of your jug no more than an inch.

You can look up siphon mixer and/or hozon.
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Frillylily
Mar 4, 2016 9:04 AM CST
op I guess I am not understanding your question.

You are looking for a recipe/formula for making/mixing a vrey concentrated formula that you can later just add water to by using the garden hose with the dispenser/sprayer?

SO are you looking for a homemade formula/recipe or asking about products that you can purchase?
And it may be helpful to know what you are spraying, how much, how often ect.

And also just a little tad that I know you know but is always a good reminder ... If you are mixing a solution poisonous in a container that is not an original container, be certain to mark it clearly, and that it has child proof lid and is locked in a secure area away from pets/children as concentrated solutions are far more dangerous even than the watered down versions.
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AnnaZ
Mar 4, 2016 11:03 AM CST
It says "maximum hose length 50 feet". That is the one I had before and it did not work for me.
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Xeramtheum
Mar 4, 2016 11:26 AM CST
Was it a Hozon? The brass siphon mixer? That's the one I have and it works perfectly on my 100 foot hose.
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Name: Anna Z.
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AnnaZ
Mar 4, 2016 11:33 AM CST
Guess I will stick to mixing up my Miracle Grow in the 5 gallon pails. LOL

Nope, it didn't work. A waste of my $25.00.
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Xeramtheum
Mar 4, 2016 11:36 AM CST
Bummer .. here's a thought .. get a shorter hose and let the siphon mixer do the mixing for you. I do that all the time for plants in the greenhouse.
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greene
Mar 4, 2016 12:25 PM CST
If I am understanding the question that you are looking for a 'recipe' for a liquid that can be sprayed...

You can make compost tea, strain it well to remove any solids and use that as a spray.

Here is an article that has several links for liquid fertilizer.
http://garden.org/ideas/view/g...

Not long ago one of the members posted that she chops/grinds (?) bananas and allows them to soak and uses the liquid as fertilizer. Thumbs up

I'm sure there are more recipes but that's all I know.
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Frillylily
Mar 4, 2016 12:39 PM CST
well I understand that he is wanting something not just TO spray but that is also absorbed by the plants leaves? I guess it depends on the type of plant?
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Xeramtheum
Mar 4, 2016 2:13 PM CST
I use the same dilution rates for foliar feeding.
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Mar 4, 2016 2:50 PM CST
greene - thanks for posting those links. The French gardening link was very informative!
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Name: Prabhi Setty
Trinidad West-Indies
prabhisetty
Feb 4, 2017 4:06 PM CST
Hi ,
Thank you I have a hose on attachment for liquid only, solid fertilizers blocks the nozzle.
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Bubbles
Mar 24, 2017 2:37 PM CST
@Xeramtheum Are you still in love with your Hozon? I'm getting ready to order one with a backflow preventer from Amazon. DH is looking at another one for me, an EZ-Flow that is more expensive, but I don't think I need such a large one.
Name: Anne
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Mar 24, 2017 4:00 PM CST
I love mine! It's my best garden friend!
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Bubbles
Mar 24, 2017 4:09 PM CST
Thumbs up Thanks!
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 24, 2017 4:19 PM CST
You're welcome .. just make sure you follow what I wrote to the letter:

You'll also want to use either a fan sprayer or simple watering wand with a shut off valve in the handle - not the trigger type. Do not use a watering wand that has multiple settings for spray type and a hand trigger. The reason being that when you start restricting the flow of water you're going to lose your siphon.
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do, so throw off the bowlines, sail away from safe harbor, catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore, Dream, Discover."

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