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Mar 9, 2016 11:50 AM CST
Name: Eric
North Georgia, USA (Zone 7b)
Region: Georgia Garden Ideas: Level 1
AKA "Jewel weed."

I know, it's a weed. It grows wild down by the creek across the road. Still, I'd like to start some in containers. I gathered some seeds last year. These seeds seem impossible to germinate, though the areas where it grows wild seem to reseed naturally.

I'll be dumb enough to ask: what's the trick to germinating and raising these things in containers?
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Mar 9, 2016 12:08 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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They are a pretty plant and deserve a place in the garden.

They are a double-dormancy seed that requires a cold, moist period followed by a warm, moist period and another period of cold, moist.
So roughly 60 to 90 days of cold, moist; then a warm, moist period at about 80 F for 60-90 days; then back to the cold, moist...or you can just chuck the seeds at some soil in pots outside and leave them alone for 2 years and they'll germinate to the best of their ability.
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Mar 9, 2016 1:11 PM CST
Name: Eric
North Georgia, USA (Zone 7b)
Region: Georgia Garden Ideas: Level 1
I was afraid that was the answer. I saw that in a couple of places online.

I was sort of hoping someone had a workaround. Something like soaking in balsamic vinegar, plant in a mixture of coconut coire and composted wolfsbane blooms, sprinkle with holy water, or something to get them to germinate quicker.

I should have done 6 or 8 weeks in the mini-fridge, 6 or 8 weeks in the heated "tropical room", and another 6 or 8 weeks in the mini-fridge after I harvested the seeds. I'd be almost ready to set them out now for final germination if I tried that.

Now I've already wasted one winter cycle when I could have had them outside in a pot Confused Crying Sighing!
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Mar 9, 2016 1:51 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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I love Jewelweed. I had it all over the place behind the back fence. I hope I still do, but the electric utility came around and cut all the trees and vegetation along their power lines. In doing so, they trampled and covered a lot of things. I'll have to wait and see what happens.
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Mar 9, 2016 2:30 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Eric, could you just dig up a clump of the seedlings this spring, plant them, and then let them do their own thing after that? We have a pretty big patch of jewelweed near the edge of the woods and I want to put some of that in my shady garden; my original plan was to collect some seeds and scatter them where I want them to grow, but I didn't catch them at the right time -- so as soon as they start popping up I'm going to move some to the garden.
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Mar 9, 2016 3:37 PM CST
Name: Eric
North Georgia, USA (Zone 7b)
Region: Georgia Garden Ideas: Level 1
I was also considering digging some up and moving them.

They are across the road, on a neighbor's property. I'll call them later on and see if they are OK with me gathering some wild plants and flowers from along the creek.

I also need to make sure I don't go on a day when they are turkey hunting. Turkey season starts soon, and I haven't seen any jewelweed yet.

What time of the year/month is it, or what soil temp is it when the jewel weed sprouts? I'm in north Georgia, a bit north of half way between Atlanta and the Tennessee state line. Or when does jewel weed sprout relative to Daffodils, Irises, or Dogwoods blooming?
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Mar 9, 2016 4:56 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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I would expect them to come up for you anytime now. Seedlings are surprisingly frost hardy, and should come up before your last frost date. That is, if they act the same as they do in Minnesota.

The probable work around for seed is to gather them fresh and plant immediately (within days). Most impatiens that are native to temperate (non-tropical) climates will only need one cold treatment if fresh sown. This includes I. capensis. But if seeds dry, some will die, and those that don't will need the double temperature cycle.
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Mar 9, 2016 5:19 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA (Zone 7b)
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If you transplant some, get them while they are still really small (seedlings) and take a lot of attached soil with them. Basically, shovel them up and then replant them in a hole that is shaped the same as that shovel of soil. They don't like to be transplanted and when larger they will usually croak.

Also, they are susceptible to the Impatiens Downy Mildew that is taking out the related bedding plant, Impatiens walleriana.
Sadly, we have the Impatiens Downy Mildew here so I don't have any Impatiens capensis.

Hummingbirds adore them! Smiling
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Mar 9, 2016 6:09 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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So true. They don't like being transplanted at all.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 9, 2016 6:17 PM CST
Name: Eric
North Georgia, USA (Zone 7b)
Region: Georgia Garden Ideas: Level 1
So, I probably need to go out tomorrow or this weekend, and look where I saw the jewel weed last year, and see if I can find a patch of seedlings that look like this:



Dig some of those up and plant them in my garden, or in containers ASAP.

Got it!
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Mar 9, 2016 6:22 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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So true. They don't like being transplanted at all.



I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 10, 2016 3:15 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Probably best to wait until they they get their first set of true leaves:
Thumb of 2016-03-10/Leftwood/acab21
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Mar 10, 2016 4:27 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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I actually think the smaller ones might do better -- but I haven't tried it yet (either way), so I'll find out this spring. There are always plenty of seedlings for me to experiment with! Smiling
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Mar 10, 2016 6:51 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis, MN, USA zone 4
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Would love to here your results! I've transplanted at the first true leaf set and 3 sets (they grow fast), but never that small, so I can't be sure.
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I should also have said that the seedlings in my photo are a different Impatiens species, from the Himalayas, in case anyone thought they looked a little funny for I. capensis.
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Mar 10, 2016 7:23 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Rick, I will try my best to revisit this thread with my results!
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