Irises forum: Could i get a little help with ID

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Name: Johnny
Paducah, KY (Zone 7a)
JLCam
Mar 13, 2016 6:36 PM CST

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Could someone help me with identifying these two types of iris? I've had them for several years but would love to know their exact name. Any help would be appreciated. :)
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Mar 13, 2016 6:42 PM CST
first one looks like it could be I. germanica, 2nd similar to Indian Chief.........check them out in the DB, and see what you think.
Name: Johnny
Paducah, KY (Zone 7a)
JLCam
Mar 13, 2016 6:44 PM CST
Thank you so much Arlyn, gotta find the DB lol. :)
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Mar 13, 2016 6:55 PM CST
Species Iris (Iris germanica)
Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Indian Chief')

Just as a word of caution.....An "ID" by picture (even with an accurate written description) is really almost impossible . The only really sure way is to grow the iris next to one that has had the name confirmed. Even then, it's easy to be in error. If you are just wanting a "name" , for your use, in your garden.....that's one thing, but, if you "pass " the iris along to others, please DON'T say that " This is "so & so", just say, "it's SIMILAR to "so & so".........thanks !



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Name: Johnny
Paducah, KY (Zone 7a)
JLCam
Mar 13, 2016 7:14 PM CST
I was just curious about their names, i'm kind of obsessive about knowing the names and types of the plants i get to have in my garden. :)
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Mar 13, 2016 11:33 PM CST
I'd say 'Indian Chief' is a good bet for the second one. One of it's distinguishing features is the fine darker wire edge on the standards. It tends to increase rapidly and is an exceptional bloomer. That said, I agree with Arlyn on putting names to things too quickly. I know what you mean aobut needing to knwo the names.. I've bought countless blue cultivars trying to match up some I got years ago (lost the tags and forgot their names)..
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Name: Johnny
Paducah, KY (Zone 7a)
JLCam
Mar 13, 2016 11:58 PM CST
I love that you say it tends to increase rapidly cause it is my favorite for sure, and they are doing fantastic already this year. Usually bloom around the first of May but i bet they are early this year, maybe middle April. I'm excited. Thank you Sherry Austin very much!!! :)
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
Mar 14, 2016 12:43 AM CST
Before I had lots of different Iris, I kept dividing it, and had luscious clumps of it everywhere.. I dug us several clumps and moved them over to my rental next door. Here's before I dug most of them up..
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and this past spring w/ the one remaining clump (in this part of the garden)
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Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Irises Beekeeper Region: Illinois Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crowrita1
Mar 14, 2016 8:20 AM CST
One more comment about I. germanica. It is , of course, a species iris, but, there ARE several different "clones" of it floating around.......differing very slightly .........so it can be a 'tough customer' to get a firm ID on. Both it, and Indian Chief were VERY popular (and prolific !) and were passed around a lot.....so they are amongst the "commonest" of noids.
Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Mar 14, 2016 9:35 AM CST
Hey JLCam -- welcome to our Iris forum. Haven't seen you here before. Welcome!

Also -- Paducah KY? Seriously??? Where have you been? I'm right here in Graves County, a short fifteen miles from Paducah. I'm so excited to meet someone here who also lives here!! Smiling
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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grannysgarden
Mar 14, 2016 10:42 AM CST
Hello Johnny, and welcome to the iris forum. I did not realize you were a new member. That is usually stated near your avatar until you have been around a short while. Anyway, glad you found us and stick around and play...... we are nearing iris bloom season and this site will get even more gorgeous. smiles
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DaveinPA
Mar 15, 2016 10:21 AM CST
Johnny, I'd have to agree with the Iris Germanica and Indian Chief advice you have been given. Grew both of them; each grew well and was prolific. And welcome!

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UndertheSun
Mar 15, 2016 11:49 AM CST
I know I've said it before and I'll keep saying it every time I see it. Sherry, your garden is amazing! Lovey dubby
Name: Johnny
Paducah, KY (Zone 7a)
JLCam
Mar 15, 2016 12:29 PM CST
Yes i agree with Rob, spectacular garden!!!! Hi Mary Ann yes i really am in Paducah. Very nice to see someone else close by. You know what kind of conditions our plants share, been an odd winter huh? You all are so helpful and kind. I really lucked out finding this forum!! Smiling thank you all so much!
Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Muddymitts
Mar 15, 2016 3:57 PM CST
It certainly has been an odd winter Johnny -- following up with an odd spring............... Blinking
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Name: Johnny
Paducah, KY (Zone 7a)
JLCam
Mar 15, 2016 6:49 PM CST
Yes can you believe it!? 81 degrees today an possible flurries next Monday. Its crazy
Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
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Irises Keeps Horses Region: Kentucky Farmer Container Gardener Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Muddymitts
Mar 15, 2016 9:57 PM CST
Oh no -- I didn't hear about the flurries.................... Blinking
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Mar 15, 2016 10:09 PM CST
Thanks Rob.. I'll be having an open garden again this year at the beginning of May if you feel inclined to make the drive.

I'd agree that Mary Ann (and just about all the folks here) are helpful and kind. Thumbs up
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Name: Mary Ann
Kentucky
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Hostas Hummingbirder Daylilies Birds
Irises Keeps Horses Region: Kentucky Farmer Container Gardener Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Muddymitts
Mar 16, 2016 6:18 AM CST
Aw thanks, Sherry -- but you're right that it's all the people here. Just a really great group of people!!
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Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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Zencat
Mar 20, 2016 10:39 AM CST
I agree !!!
Welcome! Johnny!

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