Roses forum: Please Help me with our roses. Begging you to watch

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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Mar 24, 2016 8:48 AM CST
Henhouse said:

For what it's worth... This first picture looks typical of the foliage and stems of Dr. Huey to me.

These two pictures are two different roses, right?


The first picture shows what, to me, looks to be two different roses. The little one growing horizontally does not look like Dr Huey. It has leaves with seven leaflets; none of my Dr Huey plants nor those I can see in the database have more than five. Perhaps it is one of the original old roses?
Porkpal
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 24, 2016 10:41 AM CST
God I would love for that to be the case, but what I'm interpreting all of them have died back, but we will see.
Brenden
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Mar 24, 2016 3:31 PM CST
Porkpal, you have Eagle eyes!!
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
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porkpal
Mar 24, 2016 3:47 PM CST
I was more impressed that I could count to seven...
Porkpal
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 24, 2016 6:51 PM CST
You do have a point... those aren't the same style. PLOT TWIST
Brenden
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Mar 24, 2016 6:57 PM CST
PP ... great catch ... I tip my hat to you.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 24, 2016 9:41 PM CST
Also..... I found a rose bush she forgot she had as well. I'm planting Saturday and will take pictures before after.
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 26, 2016 3:21 PM CST
ALL ROSES UPROOTED AND TRIMMED! too many pictures to show but I have 7 plants... one was 3 plants together. Anyways, location wise will this do?
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The last picture is the same as the 1st, just a different angle
Brenden
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Mar 26, 2016 3:26 PM CST

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Locations look good to me. I hope your roses thrive. Smiling
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 26, 2016 3:58 PM CST
Actually I was thinking one single on if possible, and here is a general summary of my roses pruned now. All 8 or so appear similar.
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Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 26, 2016 4:02 PM CST
They all appear alive, just dead looking bases
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Opinions on care? I'm going to put dirt over them for the nite because it will take me forever to plant....wherever that will be tomorrow
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 26, 2016 4:05 PM CST
God, I have no idea what to do with this situation
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Brenden
Ohio (Zone 5b)
AlyssaBlue
Mar 26, 2016 9:41 PM CST
I would like to comment on photo #3:

It is unique. Well, if it were me (I do not try to have perfect shaped plants), I would re plant but maybe tilt it slightly when planting so it looks a little more upright. But plan ahead where you're putting it because it grows to the side, so it doesn't grow into anything next to it. I would trim off the bottom most branch in that photo, because you do not want it touching the ground. Then as it grows, train it to grow more upright, but it will want to do that anyway.

Wow, those roots are a bear. I hope you have a digging bar!
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Mar 26, 2016 10:10 PM CST
ok, I will DEFINATELY try to turn that one as vertical as possible haha
I couldn' believe some of these plants Alyssa, nothing to them, yet alive. Fighting.
They have definately earnt my respect for being this resilient!
Brenden
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Arico
Mar 27, 2016 12:38 PM CST
Roses are hardy plants, they can whithstand alot of abuse. But with little fibrous roots they'll have a hell of a job to do to flower. They might not even this season and instead concentrate on establishing underground. Good oppurtunity to see how they grow and plan your pruning accordingly. Btw, roses do well in clay soils, so that shouldn't be a problem if that's the case. The siting looks good to me too.
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Apr 8, 2016 6:30 PM CST
I still hope people can see what I'm posting, know it's been a while but here is 3 hours of back breaking labor. NOW, should I use any of that clay I dug out? Rotation it with the organic matter behind it? Or not even touch it. o and how long can this clay preserve matter? My god, it has been that deep forever, I know, because we have NEVER dug there, like 4-5 feet down I got black bark with white inside it, not as decomposed as I thought it should be.. and look at these Worms I found at 4 feet down, in the four foot clay!
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Brenden
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Bulbs Cottage Gardener Roses Irises
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gemini_sage
Apr 9, 2016 6:00 AM CST
I'd mix compost with the clay. Its good for your plants roots to have contact with native soil, and clay is good at holding moisture and nutrients in the soil- as long as it is well drained and combined with organic matter, keeping it should work out well.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Apr 9, 2016 4:24 PM CST
Thank you Gemini, always appreciate it
Brenden
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Apr 12, 2016 5:51 PM CST
Ok, so in terms of soil, do you have any recommendation? I have a spot picked out 25% clay 25% pooopy chicken wood shavings hay 25% humic 25%compost

Is this OK, and will the acidity be effected too much or little?
Brenden
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Bulbs Cottage Gardener Roses Irises
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gemini_sage
Apr 12, 2016 9:43 PM CST
Sounds great! ...as long as the chicken poo is well composted.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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