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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 5, 2016 7:05 PM CST
Thanks for pointing out it's good features. The other negative might be it's color is more muddy vs. clear. But I happen to really like the color. Other gardeners might not. I definitely thought about using it in my breeding program to try to improve it. I need to figure out if it is a tet or a dip. Confused
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Apr 5, 2016 8:43 PM CST
I haven't seen too many reverse bitones but really like them. That's a nice one Becky Thumbs up
Vickie
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taylordaylily
Apr 5, 2016 8:48 PM CST
Becky, Your seedling is beautiful! I like the grayish purple color, myself. Thumbs up
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 5, 2016 8:49 PM CST
Y'all are being too nice. Thank you! Thank You!
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Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
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RobinSeeds
Apr 5, 2016 9:53 PM CST
Oops, I guess I'm being too nice, I happen to agree with everybody else. I wouldn't even say a short scape is a negative, unless the bloom get lost in the foliage. Shorter DL's for the front of the border is something I specifically look for. I say well done!
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 5, 2016 10:36 PM CST
Robin - Thank you!
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Apr 6, 2016 6:02 AM CST
The color of your seedling Becky reminds me of Trahlyta. If it's a dip, I would wonder if Trahlyta is one of the parents.
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taylordaylily
Apr 6, 2016 6:29 AM CST
I agree With Cindy!
Becky, Thank You! for sharing the picture of your seedling.
Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Apr 6, 2016 11:12 AM CST
Wow, wouldn't that be something... I just looked at the database at Trahlyta and it does look like your seedling could be a shorter variation of it. It is similar in color and form and with a green throat too. That was a good guess, Cindy. We will have to see what Becky thinks.
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Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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mistyfog
Apr 6, 2016 11:32 AM CST
Trahlyta was my first thought also. If you have that one, Becky, and it
crossed somehow, at least you would know the ploidy. I thought of that
particular plant because I have only one reverse bi-tone in the whole
garden, and it is a Trahlyta seedling. I rarely see them elsewhere either.
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 6, 2016 6:00 PM CST
Yes, I have thought all along that one of it's parents is Trahlyta. But because I don't have the actual label for it, I hate to tie a possible parent cultivar to it without being positive. And yes! I've also thought it might be a dip. I need to go back and look at my seeds to see if any crosses took on it last year and what the seedling crosses were. I had almost all seedlings last year except for a few registered daylilies that I was hybridizing with. I went hand-pollinating crazy last year and have so many seeds. I get lost in all the hybridizing and collecting seeds and forget details, so need to check my seed stash in the refrigerator! I am fairly positive that I got some seeds from it. The thing about it is how short it is. Maybe over time the scapes will get taller, but the foliage is short too. I love the foliage! Always looks good when everything else looks attacked by thrips, chewed by aphids, or spotted with rust.
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Name: shirlee
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mistyfog
Apr 6, 2016 7:35 PM CST
Becky, my Trahlyta seedling is short too. Just now thought of that. Hmmm.
I couldn't list a parent either on merely a guess, and also go crazy playing
lady bee in the garden. Just can't help myself! Whistling
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 6, 2016 8:19 PM CST
Shirlee - Interesting that your seedling is also short. I may have to look into the background of Trahlyta. I am hoping to get some of the Trahlyta cultivar soon. It's one I know I will love! I only had seeds to grow that I "think" have Trahlyta as a parent.
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Name: Sandi
Franklin, WI (Zone 5a)
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Seedsower
Apr 8, 2016 8:56 AM CST
Becky

I too think your seedling looks like it has Trahlyta in it. Have you had this one awhile? I've used Trahylta to hybridize, it is one of the earlier plants I used. I wish I would have kept record of the seeds I sent you to maybe help you out with some of your unknown crosses~

Edited to add: I have at least one Trahlyta seedling. The first year it bloomed it was a one hit wonder at about 12" tall. Last year it grew to probably around 2-1/2 feet and bloomed for several weeks. I'll see if I can find the photos when I get home from work. Break time is up!
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Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
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Polymerous
Apr 8, 2016 6:35 PM CST
Never grew 'Trahylta' here. The coloration is interesting on the seedling, though if I were going to cross it, I would find something where the sepals recurve a bit.... that one sticking straight up at 12 o'clock looks Blinking .
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 8, 2016 9:39 PM CST
Sandi - I am positive that some of the seeds I received from you were a cross of Trahlyta. I remember looking at the name, thinking it was a misspelling of some name. Hilarious! It might be a seedling from one of those! It may have also been a Trahlyta x unknown seeds.

Polymerous - yes, that sepal does looking odd, but it catches my eye every time it blooms. The color and shape of the bloom looks so different than anything else that blooms. I need to go through my seed stash to see if I got any seeds from it last year. I think I did and may need to grow some of its children.
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Name: Sandi
Franklin, WI (Zone 5a)
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Seedsower
Apr 9, 2016 4:24 AM CST
Hi Becky...yeah, I never could spell Trahlyta correctly!

Mine is Trahlyta x Pink Super Spider

Here it is in 2013 (guess I've had it longer than I thought!) It bloomed at all once and was very short, I think the foilage even looks similar to yours
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Here is it last year
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Can't wait to see photos you'll be posting of your flowers...we got about an inch of snow yesterday, no Spring in sight~ Grumbling

Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
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beckygardener
Apr 9, 2016 5:52 AM CST
Sandi - oh wow! Your seedling of Trahlyta is stunning! I agree that your foliage does look very similar to mine. Something tells me that cultivar may make some very interesting and beautiful children blooms.

I don't believe you spelled it wrong on the seed baggie though I originally thought it was misspelled. I had just never heard of such a name and was surprised it existed at all when I looked in the database. Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! I now know the story behind the name.
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Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
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RobinSeeds
Apr 9, 2016 5:56 PM CST
Beautiful blooms Sandi, I just thought you'd like to know we got 6" of white stuff yesterday. There's always something to be thankful for, you could be me. Hilarious!
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taylordaylily
Apr 9, 2016 10:08 PM CST
Sandi, Your seedling is beautiful. Thumbs up

Robin, I woke up to snow, and 3 soft maples all over my yard this morning. My husband forgot to tell me about the tree service coming Friday. Grumbling Here's what it looked like.
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