Daylilies forum: April Blooms 2016

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Name: Ashton & Terry
Jones, OK (Zone 7a)
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kidfishing
Apr 9, 2016 3:17 PM CST
My great grandmother brought it from northeastern Kansas. Olallie Daylily Garden in Vermont has information on their website about it.
I have never found any daylily made from it. I am not sure of the Ploidy, may be triploid. We tried crossing it just to see but never got seeds pods or seeds from pollen. (used frozen pollen and that may be the problem)
It does not seem to care about the weather. A few years ago our latest freeze was May 4 and it had been cold and freezing during April and it bloomed very late on April 30th that year. (the temps were high 20's and low 30's) My dad has covered the plant overnight with a trash barrel several times over the years when it had buds and the forecast was 20's.
Kidfishing
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Apr 9, 2016 4:53 PM CST
Have you checked out the database here on ATP? There is one entry for H. dumortieri and another entry for 'Dumortieri' as a cultivar name registered in 1934.

I know sometimes registrations like the latter are selected clones of a species which are then registered, but I don't know if that's true here. The entry of the cultivar 'Dormortieri' lists three child plants and one is a cross between flava X Dumortieri registered as 'Sovereign'. If this is a species cross of some sort (I couldn't figure out 'flava'), which is what I would guess since the cross was made in 1906, then that would establish the ploidy as diploid as given for the cross and since 'Sovereign' in turn has two registered offspring listed as diploid also. Diploid would be more likely, I think, as a species. The most recent thing I saw was 1949, so everything is a few decades in the past concerning cultivars. The photos of 'Sovereign' in the database were used with permission from Manatawny Creek Farm which is still an ongoing concern per the web page for them. You might find someone there that would know more about it.

One more thing. Wasn't Maurice making a collection of species? He might be someone else who would know, in any case. My memory may be incorrect on him growing them. For something new that resembles H. dumortieri take a look at 'Woodlands Yellow Warbler' from Anna Carlson. Actually she has several along those lines and I think she is working with some more.

Too much info, I guess Big Grin :). Your plant just caught my interest on a rainy and very cool day.
Donald
Name: Ashton & Terry
Jones, OK (Zone 7a)
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kidfishing
Apr 9, 2016 6:41 PM CST
Thanks Donald.
I could be wrong about the name. I am always happy to tell the daylily club in April that I have a daylily in bloom.
I would like to know what it is. I will check more into it.
Kidfishing
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Apr 9, 2016 8:18 PM CST
kidfishing said:Thanks Donald.
I could be wrong about the name. I am always happy to tell the daylily club in April that I have a daylily in bloom.
I would like to know what it is. I will check more into it.

It's hard to identify old pass-along plants sometimes, but yours seems to match as far as the bloom looks and in the early blooming characteristic. That early bloom time has been consistent on what I read today. I did find one place that said H. dumortieri was counted as having 22 chromosomes, so if your id is correct, it is a diploid. Freeze some more pollen!! It could lead to winter blooming plants in Florida and along the Gulf coast and warm locations like those. nodding
Donald
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Apr 10, 2016 1:17 PM CST
Finally I have a bloom that has actually opened up all the way, but most are still only partly opening. Next week hope to be better.
Champagne Elegance: Listed to be early-mid, but is always very early in my garden. It seems to always be somewhere in the top three plants to open. Of course as I get more plants, it seems to come down the list a little, but it is always very early. Early enough to even compete for the title of early opener along with some very early NOIDs every year.
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Ming Porcelain: Still blooming, but not quite opening fully yet.
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Royal Eventide: Every day a few more buds try to open, but I had to spread these open with my hand a little and they still were not looking fully opened, nothing does the job as good as nature.

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My yellow NOID, after I shot the photo I pulled all the open and part way open blooms off trying to discourage the little back bugs you can see in the photo. They seem to enjoy nibbling around the edges of the blooms and also leave bite marks on the face of the petals.

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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Apr 10, 2016 5:53 PM CST
I used chrome and used 500 percent enlargement and the bugs are still clear and the markings can be seen pretty good, in case anyone has any idea what they are.
Name: Arlene
Florida's east coast (Zone 9a)
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florange
Apr 11, 2016 4:10 PM CST
This morning Dragonfly Dawn bloomed a lovely, but smaller version of itself.


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Windows 10 is not a good picture program, but you have to use what you have!

Hope everyone else is having fun on this early spring day! It was 81 degrees here with a cool north wind.
Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Apr 11, 2016 4:47 PM CST
That is gorgeous, Arlene!
Vickie
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Name: Arlene
Florida's east coast (Zone 9a)
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florange
Apr 11, 2016 4:51 PM CST
Thanks Vickie! It's amazing how quickly plants dry out with wind. We are limited to watering twice a week. I live next to a witch who will turn me in in a heart beat. She is old and has always hated anyone who lives next to her.

Wonderful. I just ignore her.
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Apr 11, 2016 5:18 PM CST
Oh I sure hope mine blooms this summer. Sighing!
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 11, 2016 6:04 PM CST
Oh my! Beautiful.

Arlene - My seedlings that I grew from LA seeds show rust. The seedlings were DD x DD. Just wondering if you might see rust on yours? If so, please let me know as I love Dragonfly Dawn, but if it doesn't have good rust resistance, it may not make my future want list.
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Name: Arlene
Florida's east coast (Zone 9a)
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florange
Apr 11, 2016 6:15 PM CST
Becky, Dragonfly Dawn does not show rust in my garden.

I truly try to be honest with you!
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Apr 11, 2016 6:21 PM CST
Arlene - Oh, I believe you. I am wondering if some the genetics in the plant (for rust susceptibility) came forward in the crossing of itself. That is what I was trying to determine if it was DD (which I do not have) or my DD x DD seedlings.
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Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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mistyfog
Apr 11, 2016 6:56 PM CST
Arlene, your Dragonfly Dawn is beautiful. Lovey dubby

Larry, I've been searching for your beetle id, but so far no luck.
Found some similar, but no cigar, and I've looked at many.
Is the color black with green dots? Is the color shiny?
Does the beetle have 6 dots or more? I think I have the
shape and form memorized, but these details I can't quite
get from the photo.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Apr 11, 2016 7:17 PM CST
Shirlee, I think it is in the family Buprestidae, if you want to check those out for a match but watch the size, some are bigger than Larry's. This is one example of the family:

http://bugguide.net/node/view/...
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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mistyfog
Apr 11, 2016 9:08 PM CST
Thanks Sue, I believe that's probably it, or close to it. Those dots appear to be angled unlike the others I viewed. Buprestidae was the family I looked in and also Acmaeodera for possibles.

We have so many insects here tasting daylilies, but I don't remember that particular one.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Apr 11, 2016 9:19 PM CST
Yes I do believe that is it also. Thanks!
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Name: Stan
Florida Panhandle (Defuniak Sp (Zone 8b)
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GaNinFl
Apr 13, 2016 5:23 AM CST
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Helix') bloomed over the weekend. Unfortunately, I was out of town and didn't capture a picture of the FFO and FFE in my garden. Crying
However, it has a bud opening today along with another FFE, Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Country Pride').

Helix was purchased last year and I've had Country Pride for a couple years now, bud no blooms. I cant wait to get home to see them today. I hope the rain holds out until I can... Crossing Fingers!
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Name: Regina
Warrenville, SC (Zone 8a)
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scflowers
Apr 13, 2016 9:45 AM CST
Lava Flow, still not looking at its best...but at least it's a bloom. It poured down raining after this pic, so then it really had a bad day!
Hope everyone else starts having blooms soon; I think I'm going through withdrawals! My husband will be thankful when I'm out working all day in the yard instead of inside surfing the net to buy more daylilies and seeds! Rolling on the floor laughing

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Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Apr 13, 2016 11:35 AM CST
Blooming today:

MAZE OF MOONLIGHT - Registered at 3.5"


Betty

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