Daylilies forum: Daylily buds used as Identifiers

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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Apr 18, 2016 2:18 PM CST
I have been trying to ID Mary Todd in my garden and it looks like the buds will be a key factor in doing that. So I went out and took a few photos of daylily buds. I was wondering at what stage of bud development it would be best to take photos of the buds? I decided that it would probably be best right before the bud actually opened, and even better if the almost open bud and the opened bloom could be captured in the same photo. I don't have many blooms yet. I do have 'Spacecoast Tiny Perfection' in bloom, but the other buds were so small the bloom actually hid them from view.
I would like to know what other varieties of daylilies you know of that have very distinctive buds that would aid in the identification cultivars. I know there are some photos of buds in the database, but I would love to see bud photos for every variety! Here are a few that were progressed far enough along to take a photo.
Royal Eventide:

Siloam Double Classic:
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Nagasaki:
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Filled With Joy:
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NOID Purple:
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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spunky1
Apr 19, 2016 2:52 PM CST
Larry it's almost impossible to ID a NOID with an open bloom, just to many alike. Try to ID a daylily by the bud???
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Region: Alabama Composter Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Seedfork
Apr 19, 2016 3:12 PM CST
The bloom color of a daylily can vary a great deal. The height of the plant may vary from one garden to another. As your seedlings show, the blooms can vary drastically. So when we try to ID a plant, we have to consider all the different variables. I am not saying to base the ID of any plant on any one characteristic. But it would certainly help to be able to add bud traits along with all the other things we consider when trying to ID a plant. I have no knowledge of the reliability of bud traits as far as consistency is concerned, but I have seen no one dispute that Mary Todd has a consistent pattern of having dark tips on the buds. It might be that bud traits are more consistent than bloom color (I don't know). Looking at the buds on daylilies in my garden I see that some have small round looking buds, some have elongated buds, some have color tinted buds, all those things could help in the determination of which daylily it will turn out to be. I assume that being buds are part of nature they will also vary considerably, still I think there can be useable patterns found among them. I am not that familiar the huge number of daylily varieties available, but I am willing to bet there are hybridizers who when walking though a large field of daylilies could spot some buds and Id the plant fairly reliably. Any how, it is just something I find that makes me pay more attention to my plants and I find it interesting. At this moment I am leaning toward my plant not being Mary Todd, but if it ends up with buds with dark tips, I may be changing my mind. Then the next thing I will look for will be the curling back of the sepals. Then the next thing...., I may just buy a Mary Todd and plant next to it. That might take all the fun out of it though. Whistling
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Polymerous
Apr 19, 2016 5:31 PM CST
What he said...

While I agree with Fred on the "too many daylilies look alike", I can't discount the possibility that the buds could help distinguish among daylilies known to be in a garden, if nothing else - or, as with Larry and his maybe 'Mary Todd', help confirm or deny a plant identity (because, let's face it, nurseries make mistakes). While the shape and size of the bud may or may not be helpful, I think that colored bud tips are, and if nothing else, they add interest to the plant and to the garden. I have some number of dormant yellow daylilies here, but if (for some odd reason) there was ever any confusion, I know that I can tell 'Joyful Soul' from the other yellows here, by its colored bud tips (which are neat!).

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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

Charter ATP Member Region: Gulf Coast I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Seller of Garden Stuff Dog Lover Region: United States of America
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spunky1
Apr 20, 2016 5:56 AM CST
I agree there are a few daylilies with distinguishing bubs, sorry it I missed the real meaning of your post Larry.

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