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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 18, 2016 2:31 PM CST

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Do you think these are actually two different plants? SMG has them both. Go to their search function and type in Zelda. It brings them both up. I can't seem to find Zelda anyplace else on line, but that doesn't mean it isn't out there.....
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 18, 2016 5:13 PM CST
Descriptions are slightly different but they look the same too though my eyes aren't the best on this too bright laptop...
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 18, 2016 9:05 PM CST
I'm sure it is the same, I thought I'd looked this up in the past, and that it was on sempervivum.liste.de but guess not! It'll be interesting to see if anyone else has info! I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Michael
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parttimegardener
Apr 18, 2016 9:32 PM CST
No "Zelda" to be found on sempervivum.liste.de, only "Proud Zelda". Confused
When searching "Sempervivum Zelda" in Google, the links are related to "Proud Zelda".
Does" Zelda" exist? Confused
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Apr 18, 2016 10:06 PM CST
Michael me thinks it is a mistake - or maybe an introduction by SMG without it being pointed out as such. Shrug! Don't ya love the name Zelda though! It's gotta exist! Although I like the name Proud Zelda a lot too!
Makes me think of 'Proud Mary' nodding
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 19, 2016 2:28 AM CST

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Thanks for the input, I thought it looked like the same plant too.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 19, 2016 6:17 PM CST

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Chris I don't find 'Zelda' anywhere, not even SMG.
I might be that he removed it. We had the same thing happen a few years back with h. 'Angel Wings'. He also had one with the name 'Angel' but turned out to be the same heuff.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 19, 2016 6:19 PM CST
I found 'Zelda' listed, along with Proud Zelda, at SMG when I typed in Zelda into their Product search field...
Name: Marilyn
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CDsSister
Apr 19, 2016 6:50 PM CST
I got the same thing when I looked. Similar pictures and this info.

Semp. 'Zelda'
Lovely gray-green downy leaves with burgandy tips and highlights. Large. (Spring Photo)
SKU
Semp-0454
Weight
0.07 lb
Price
$3.75
Qty Out of Stock

Semp. 'Proud Zelda'
Gorgeous downy rosettes with silver-gray leaves tipped in purple. Medium. (Spring Photo)
SKU Semp-0812
Weight 0.07 lb
Price $3.75
Qty Not available in the current price set.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 19, 2016 9:25 PM CST
Lynn on SMG if you use the 'product search' button at the upper right of the page it gives you all the semps on his product list - so even if they are currently not available they will be in that master search list...
Chris @Goldfinch4 did you contact Don? (if one of them is new to you, you should contact him and let him know you want a different plant - I'm sure he'd understand)
Let me know if you want me to do that, I don't mind - I'll let him know that it looks like there is only one semp -
'Proud Zelda' unless he knows something specific about these 2 semps that we don't know...
I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 19, 2016 9:48 PM CST

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Thank you all, I tried the 'Product Search' and found them both. Sure looks like the same semp to me.
I think the 'Proud' was dropped accidentally. It can happen.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 19, 2016 9:50 PM CST
Poor Zelda...
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 19, 2016 9:53 PM CST
That leaves Zelda as a possible semp name, and I like that idea!! :P
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Apr 20, 2016 2:34 AM CST

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Thanks all! Sounds unanimous then. @gg5 if you don't mind contacting Don that would be great!!
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2016 12:09 PM CST
Yes will do!
I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2016 12:23 PM CST
Here is a copy of what I sent to Don @Goldfinch4

Hello Don how are you? I hope your business is going great!
I'm contacting you because there has been a post on Garden.org (formerly Allthingsplants)
regarding Zelda and Proud Zelda being the same semp.
Over the years 2 people on the thread bought these semps from you and feel they look alike.
I can find no info regarding Zelda, wondering if you can tell me anything about it?
Since I couldn't find info, and based on the photos on SMG, I'm thinking they may
be the same semp. So wanted to let you know, the name for that semp should be
'Proud Zelda'
I use sempervivum liste.de for the info here is a link. Also Horst's site doesn't show a Zelda.
http://www.sempervivum-liste.de/Sempervivum/Proud%20Zelda

We will add 'Zelda' to our database if you tell me it is a different semp from Proud Zelda,
please let me know.
Thanks for your time and I'll miss you at the semp clinic coming up this weekend
Be well
Your semp friend
Greg Colucci
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Forum moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
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goldfinch4
Apr 20, 2016 12:43 PM CST

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Thanks @gg5!
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 21, 2016 11:05 AM CST
Here is Don's reply

I looked this up on my database and there is collection info on 'Proud Zelda' and nothing listed for 'Zelda'. This leads me to believe that somewhere down the line someone just labeled the plant incorrectly and it propagated itself from there. I always knew they looked similar but they rarely got repotted at the same time and so I never really got to make a good comparison. I think the best is to assume you are correct and I will scrutinize them for a while to make sure. I always appreciate your input.

So you were right Chris @Goldfinch4
Another mystery solved...Sorry to anyone who ordered both semps from SMG, you now have an awful lot of 'Proud Zelda' and I think this one grows fast Whistling
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 21, 2016 11:39 AM CST
An "awful lot of Proud Zelda' is not a bad thing in my book... Whistling
My label for Proud Zelda got separated from its plants during the move and so I have to do a few seasons-long scrutinizing too to see if my label got put back into the right place. In the meanwhile I did get ahold of a verified PZ to match the others with.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 21, 2016 2:21 PM CST

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Don is such a great person to do business with.
Thank you for contacting him Greg.

Bev you should be able to identify your 'Proud Zelda' this time of year, and into summer.
Maybe you can show us some photos?

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