Plant ID forum: unidentified foliage clump

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(Zone 8b)
Apr 25, 2016 11:07 AM CST
I have this clump of foliage that I do think I am supposed to know what it is, but as some of you know when you reach a certain age your memory plays tricks with you. Do any of you know recognize it?
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Apr 25, 2016 1:50 PM CST
Did you grow dahlias last year near that area?
(Zone 8b)
Apr 25, 2016 2:09 PM CST
No, I didn't. There was a plant label for hardy asters nearby, but I don't think this foliage looks like that.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Apr 25, 2016 2:51 PM CST
Could it be a type of Rudbeckia?

(Zone 8b)
Apr 25, 2016 3:14 PM CST
The foliage is actually darker that what it looks like in the pic and it is sort of shiny.

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