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Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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There are about 75,000 images total across all of ATP. These images are mostly in the forums.

I'm working on a system where you can take an image in the forums and propose that it be added to the database under a specific plant.

I will also set it up so that if you don't want your images to be considered, I can opt you out of this.

On any photo that was proposed for the DB and was subsequently approved, the person who uploaded the photo would be awarded an acorn. Additionally, the person who proposed the image would receive half an acorn (unless it was your own photo in which case you just get the 1 acorn)

So, is this feature something that a lot of you would make good use of?
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Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
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yes!! there are a lot of good quality images in the forums and their owners don't think of the database...this would save us from always having to ask them to do it!
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Sep 20, 2011 2:00 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
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threegardeners said:this would save us from always having to ask them to do it!


That is precisely my thought, too.
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Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM CST
Name: Linda
SE Houston, Tx. (Hobby) (Zone 9a)
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Sep 20, 2011 2:49 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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That would be so exciting, Dave. Sue and I have always begged people to post their photos in the database, but they rarely do. There are hundreds and hundreds of images, dating way back to the earliest days of our Cubits database, that we could propose.
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Sep 20, 2011 3:01 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I remember very well the difficulties in getting people to submit to the database. A lot of members have wonderful photos and they love posting them to the forums (where it's easy) but submitting it to the database is intimidating to a lot of people.

This way, we get a win-win all the way around!

I'll get this feature in soon. Smiling
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Sep 20, 2011 3:07 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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I agree

I think we'd get a lot more images in the database.

Karen
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Sep 20, 2011 3:24 PM CST
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I am a big cheerleader for the databases & beg all the time, I often add direct links to the database entry right in my post, most of the time that works as it's now so easy for them to just click on my link I provided. This was a recent one I posted, that's too time consuming to do very often so this new feature will be awesome!! Hurray!
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Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
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Great idea Dave Hurray! Thank you so much...

I copied a bunch of my photos yesterday and today from Cubits an posted them on the database here.

Went to your "old" garden too, and copied some of my own images from that database to this one Whistling

This database is so much easier to navigate. I'm so grateful and thank you.
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Sep 20, 2011 3:32 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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When I add a photo to the Database I consider If there is already a better photo of the same thing.
If anyone can send any photo to the database will they look to see if there is already 20 photos of the plant ? or does that matter?
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Sep 20, 2011 3:34 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
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Yes, I did that too.

There are two I didn't add because the photo's there were better than mine. That said, I did a couple to the one or two that were already there.
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Sep 20, 2011 3:38 PM CST
Name: Linda
SE Houston, Tx. (Hobby) (Zone 9a)
"Godspeed, & Good Harvest!"
Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Master Level Canning and food preservation Gardens in Buckets
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Good Question...Dave?

Although, I did appreciate having a number of views of the same pic in a certain other plantfile. Sometimes, there were slight variations of the same pic (different colors, etc.), and sometimes the pics were taken at a different stage in the life of the plant/veggie...

These variations were, sometimes, very helpful in identifications and decision-making...

"Oh, I didn't know it came in orange, too!" and so forth.... I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 20, 2011 3:42 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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Cinda, I think people will automatically have to look at the other images and take them into consideration if Dave sets it up as a system in which we not only propose a photo for inclusion, but also have to provide a link to the entry (or perhaps even have to create an entry for it if one doesn't already exist).
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Sep 20, 2011 3:45 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
More is better when it comes to photos, for all the reasons one can imagine. The system can support an almost infinite number, and as was said above, often even slight variations in a photo can be helpful.

The one thing we don't want is duplicates.

Moreover, if a plant already has a bunch of nice photos and the new image in question doesn't really add much, consider passing it up.

Anyway, the feature is ready!! I'll post a new thread on how to do it right now.
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Sep 20, 2011 3:51 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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Will the system know and alert a duplicate? Or is that up to the moderator?
I guess I can see several people seeing a particularly beautiful photo and all proposing it .

Not trying to be a negative , just wondering Smiling
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Sep 20, 2011 3:57 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
gardengus said:Will the system know and alert a duplicate?


Once an image is proposed, that's it and if someone else tries to propose the same image, it will give an error message.
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Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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Big Grin I just knew the computer was smarter than me.
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Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Region: United States of America
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Just looked at my external hard drive and found MORE images to post Hurray! Hurray!
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Sep 20, 2011 8:13 PM CST
Name: Nancy
Buffalo NY
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dave said: A lot of members have wonderful photos and they love posting them to the forums (where it's easy) but submitting it to the database is intimidating to a lot of people.


Exactly! I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I do not know what's what in the garden. I only know what I like and I take pictures of it. So if there's a photo in a forum with no ID, is it likely to be added by someone else to the DB anyway?
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Sep 20, 2011 8:16 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
I'm the same way. I find the database a bit intimidating. For example...I have some lovely photos of my Helen's Flower (Helenium) but when I tried to add it to the database I found 3 pages!! of Helenium!!

eeeek!!

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