Insect and Bug ID forum: Who is this?

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Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
May 9, 2016 10:04 AM CST
Hi everyone, I usually post in the daylilies forum.
Today I found two of these on foliage.
They are all black apart from the almost white stripe on the back. They have long antennas and looking at their legs it looks like they can jump.
Many thanks!
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Sabrina, North Italy
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JRsbugs
May 9, 2016 10:15 AM CST
It's a grasshopper of some sort, could be a bush cricket. It might be a nymph, there's plenty of them to search out.

http://www.grasshoppersofeurope.com/

It could be in the family Tettigoniidae, they have long antennae.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tettigoniidae+italy&biw=11...
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
May 9, 2016 10:18 AM CST
You might be able to ID it on this forum in Italy ..

http://www.entomologiitaliani.net/public/forum/phpBB3/viewfo...
Name: Sabrina
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cybersix
May 10, 2016 7:31 AM CST
Thank you Janet.
I can't look at insects pictures too much, they hurt my stomach. I'll ask in that italian forum you linked, many thanks.
My husband says it's a common cricket, I don't know insects very well.
Sabrina, North Italy
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
May 10, 2016 8:49 AM CST
There will be a lot of species in Italy Sabrina, many more than in the UK.

I found a nymph of one which looks similar, Pholidoptera griseoaptera. Yours looks black rather than brown, and the white bands on the hind legs are distinctive.

http://www.wildanimalsonline.com/insect/darkbush-cricket.php

http://aramel.free.fr/INSECTES9bis-3.shtml

You will see the adult looks different ..

http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Pholidoptera

http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?&res=80&selected=1&name=P...

Knowing insects is a complicated process, there's so many insects which most people don't know exist, it's a minefield!


Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
May 10, 2016 8:56 AM CST
I found this species in Italy, you can see the curved white-yellow part on the side near the head ..

http://www.funghiitaliani.it/?showtopic=47219

It could be the colour varies, or it's a closely related species.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_bush-cricket

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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
May 10, 2016 9:00 AM CST
Thank You! It looks like the first link you posted, so this means they are not adults yet? Are they dangerous for plants?

I respect a lot you and people like you that knows a lot about insects, I just can't stand looking at them, Pretty silly since I have plants in the garden *Blush*

After the fourth picture I was already feeling disturbed. I guess it's a psicological thing because no insect ever hurt me in any way!
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallisblog.com
Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
Love daylilies and making candles!
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Europe Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Level 1
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cybersix
May 10, 2016 9:03 AM CST
Sorry posted before seeing your second reply. Yes it looks like that. If they are harmful for plants I'll just let them be. I started to hear crickets sing a lot in the fields behind the house, I can't remember of hearing so many and so early.
Sabrina, North Italy
My blog: http://hemerocallisblog.com
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
Butterflies Birds Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Spiders!
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JRsbugs
May 10, 2016 9:05 AM CST
I edited my post above to add a wiki link ...

The adults are omnivorous, feeding primarily on small insects such as aphids and caterpillars, but eat also plants such as bramble (Rubus species), dandelion (Taraxacum species) and nettles (Urtica species)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_bush-cricket

It's a keeper!

You might have had bad experiences to make you feel that way. Curiosity might help you overcome that feeling, try looking at them as a funny looking toy. Some are very cute. others ugly but all are interesting!
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