Peonies forum: Peony Breeding!

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Name: Yan H
Westminster, MD (Zone 6b)
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huang049
May 14, 2016 9:19 AM CST
I just found this online, in cast someone will be interested.
http://www.pivoinescapano.com/en_html/peonybreeding.htm
Name: Tracey
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magnolialover
May 14, 2016 9:38 AM CST

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Very nice Yan.
Tracey
Name: oscar
beamsville Ontario canada (Zone 6a)
ol434445
May 14, 2016 12:41 PM CST
Thank you Yan.So the early bloomer has to be the father.
Name: Karen
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kousa
May 14, 2016 1:33 PM CST
Don't you need cold stratification to germinate the peony seeds?
Name: Tracey
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magnolialover
May 14, 2016 2:13 PM CST

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It needs to go through different stages, that's why when you plant them outside in the fall they may or may not come up that next spring. They need the warm first.
Tracey
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
May 22, 2016 7:43 AM CST
I am new here on the peony forum, and usually post on the daylily forum, but I was looking around for another issue with my peonies and saw this post.

I have self-seeded peonies that pop up around the garden on a regular basis. I guess from seed pods that escape being deadheaded. I see them when they are very tiny and will leave them for a year to let them get a bit of size before I move them. I moved seven this spring, and just found another one to move.

I have two blooming size plants from my seedlings now, one single white (a seedling from Krinkled White), and one double that has very pretty colouring (a very deep pink with silvery edges).

Name: Liz Best
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LizinElizabeth
May 22, 2016 9:03 PM CST
Would love to see pics of your seedlings, Valerie! Welcome to the peony forum!
Liz
Name: Mary Stella
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Oberon46
May 22, 2016 9:05 PM CST
Valerie, did Krinkled White pop its seeds and then they 'took.' I was told that not all peonies will self seed.
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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
May 22, 2016 9:33 PM CST
LizinElizabeth said:Would love to see pics of your seedlings, Valerie! Welcome to the peony forum!


My peonies will be blooming here around the end of June, so I will post pictures of them then. Thank you for the welcome Thank You!

Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
May 22, 2016 9:41 PM CST
Really, I don't know. I never have planted a peony seed, these are just seed pods that I have missed deadheading and they 'popped' as you said and the seeds planted themselves. When I was mulching today, I found two more peony babies. These are at the feet of Fancy Nancy. They are just a single leaf.

Krinkled White is planted next to Gay Paree.

I can take pictures of the little plants and post them Smiling
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
May 23, 2016 9:33 AM CST

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Valerie, can't wait to see the blooms of your seedlings. One thing is for sure, they will be one of a kind. Thumbs up
Tracey
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
May 23, 2016 6:06 PM CST
Here are some photos of the little seedlings that I found yesterday, and a photo of an older one.

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I discovered this little fellow whilst mulching a bed that contains the peonies Lady Alexander Duff, August Dessert, Fancy Nancy and High Fashion.


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This one found in the same bed as the one above. Slightly larger seedling.

Who knows what they will look like Hilarious!


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This one is at least one year old, and will be moved to a holding bed later this summer.

Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
May 23, 2016 6:50 PM CST

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Exciting! Normally 3-5 years for first bloom.
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Name: Jerry
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Oldgardenrose
May 23, 2016 7:06 PM CST
I have wondered about tree peony seeds producing a recognizable tree peony seedling since they should mostly be hybrids to begin with and their parentage uncertain.
Name: LG
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Mieko2
May 24, 2016 8:05 AM CST
Welcome Valerie! I can't wait to see photos of your seedlings when they bloom, plus your other peonies. It's fun to see others blooms- and add that variety to your Wishlist.
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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
May 24, 2016 9:53 PM CST
magnolialover said:Exciting! Normally 3-5 years for first bloom.


The ones I moved this year are 3 years old, and no buds this year, but I am very hopeful for next year. They are in a very nice sunny location, so they should do well. Yes, you have to be patient to grow peonies from seed Blinking My wee new babies I found this year have a long road ahead of them nodding

Thank you everyone for the welcome. I have few older cultivars, such as Yellow King and High Fashion, that some of you may not have seen.

Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
May 24, 2016 9:58 PM CST
I tried once to grow tree peony seeds, but did not get germination. I should just leave a pod and see if they will grow themselves without my interference like the herbaceous ones Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Liz Best
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LizinElizabeth
May 25, 2016 7:55 AM CST
We're ALWAYS interested in seeing peony pictures, Valerie! I purchased High Fashion from Bannister's last year when they were having their retirement sale but have never heard of Yellow King. Is it an Itoh like Yellow Emperor?

As for the tree peony seeds, I purchased 3 packets from APS, absolutely nothing 1st spring. This spring I have babies from two of them! Think there was a total of 3 from 2 varieties, haven't looked in a while. Today is a clean up the garden and plant dahlias day, I'll try to take some pics of my seedlings to share. Hopefully I'll have my first herbaceous peony bloom to share today as well, Nova was 2/3 of the way open when I came in last night. Seeing slivers of color on several other buds but think it'll be at least another week or two.
Liz
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
May 25, 2016 9:16 AM CST
Best of luck to you all growing peonies from seeds. It is so exciting! Soon we can have a thread for Peony Seedling Blooms!
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
May 25, 2016 4:37 PM CST
Here are my seedlings from APS seeds:

seeds from Purple Butterfly in the Wind
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seeds from Shira-Ziku
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seeds from Silver Dawn
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Molly seedlings
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seeds from Crazy Daisy
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Liz

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