Trees and Shrubs forum: Can someone identify this tree??

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NatureGirl75
May 19, 2016 1:27 AM CST
I have this real strange tree leaning against my house and nobody seems to know what it is? Some say ASH and some say ELM?>>>
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Name: Sue
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sooby
May 19, 2016 2:57 AM CST
Do any of the leaves in the picture belong to the bare stems? If you could post a photo of any individual leaves, and also a clearer close-up of a twig showing the nodes (joints) it would help. From what I can see it has oppoosite leaf/branch arrangement which would rule out elm, but more pictures would help with identification. I'm not sure any of the green leaves I can see look like ash either. A picture from further back showing the whole plant would also help.
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NatureGirl75
May 19, 2016 3:33 AM CST

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Sandstone MN (Zone 3b)
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NatureGirl75
May 19, 2016 3:37 AM CST
sooby said:Do any of the leaves in the picture belong to the bare stems? If you could post a photo of any individual leaves, and also a clearer close-up of a twig showing the nodes (joints) it would help. From what I can see it has opposite leaf/branch arrangement which would rule out elm, but more pictures would help with identification. I'm not sure any of the green leaves I can see look like ash either. A picture from further back showing the whole plant would also help.
all leaves are to the same tree.. I got one far back as my camera would allow as it is prob about 60-70 feet tall.. a straight column with those weird down turned twining branches.. I'd like to cut it down but if it is something special then.. no. Leaves are an oval shaped coming to a point. this weird tree has always been like this.. the bare branches you see are a result of half the tree being killed by a house fire next door ( where I once lived.. and now live in the house you see pictured.)

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Name: Sue
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sooby
May 19, 2016 12:58 PM CST
It could be an ash but we'd need to see a picture of the individual leaves, or leaflets if it is a compound leaf (which it would have if it was an ash). Can you get in any closer to photograph the leaves or remove a set of leaves from a twig so that all leaflets are present if they are not single leaves?
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gasrocks
May 19, 2016 2:38 PM CST
Don't Ash Trees have opposite branching whereas most trees do not? Gene
Name: Sue
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sooby
May 19, 2016 2:53 PM CST
gasrocks said:Don't Ash Trees have opposite branching whereas most trees do not? Gene


Yes, although so do some other trees like maple, which is why I initially also asked for a picture of a twig and also the leaves. It looks as though some of the branching is opposite on the dead branches in the photo but really need a better look.

Edited to add, this page may help

http://treedoctor.anr.msu.edu/ash/ashtree_id.html
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Name: John
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You can't have too many viburnums..
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ViburnumValley
May 28, 2016 9:14 PM CST
Cut some branches off, and photograph them somewhere with good light to get clear shots. Laying on a driveway, sidewalk, or countertop usually works.

Common trees with opposite arrangement of leaves/buds/branching include Ash, Maple, Buckeye, Dogwood - and all the Viburnums...
John

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