Plant ID forum: Can this plant be a Episcia or related to it?

Views: 183, Replies: 9 » Jump to the end
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
May 20, 2016 7:43 AM CST
Hi I just received a potted plant this past Sunday. The former owner didn't know the name of it. It is, in our cold temperate climate , year round indoor/ greenhouse plant,
Thumb of 2016-05-20/hampartsum/7f538a Thumb of 2016-05-20/hampartsum/2e895c

.Leaves are opposite. The upper side of the leaf is quite shiny due to very fine hairs and velvety in touch . The underside has a purple sheen, identical in color to that of a Ctenanthe openheimiana.
Searching through different dbases in Internet the genus Episcia seemed closest. I've not seen any flowers of it. Nor seeds or remains of flower structures. By the looks it would me more of a strictly foliage plant. I was asked to take care of it, and if possible divide it . I wonder if fall (now) is the right time for this plant. I also wonder if this plant should be pruned at all.
Any suggestion?. Thanks to all.
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
The WITWIT Badge Region: California Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Xeriscape Native Plants and Wildflowers Salvias
Foliage Fan Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Bee Lover Hummingbirder Butterflies
Image
HamiltonSquare
May 20, 2016 8:43 AM CST
There is some resemblance to Gloxinella lindeniana but I see some details that don't quite match up.
Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California.
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
May 20, 2016 10:00 AM CST
Thanks Leslieray. I tried to match it with the database pics here but the twigs are spindly ( maybe because of lack of light in the original placing) , but also because of the natural growth habit. who knows? I still wonder if it another gesneriad of some sort. The plant is OK but intuitively I think it needs specific care which I don't really which. we'll keep trying...
Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
Houseplants Organic Gardener Composter Region: Gulf Coast Miniature Gardening Native Plants and Wildflowers
Bulbs Foliage Fan Tropicals Butterflies Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents
Image
purpleinopp
May 20, 2016 11:00 AM CST
Compare to Ruellia makoyana:
http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/images/byspecies/Ruellia_makoy...
👀😁😂 - SMILE! -☺😎☻☮👌✌∞☯🐣🐦🐔🐝🍯🐾
🍀👒☀🍄🍍🌱🌿🌴🎄👣🌵🌷⚘🌹🌻🌽🏡🍃🍂🌾🌿🍁❦❧ 🍃🍁🍂🌾🌻🌺🌸🌼🌹🌳🌲
☕👓 The only way to succeed is to try.
[Last edited by purpleinopp - May 20, 2016 11:54 AM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1154721 (4)
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
Butterflies Birds Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Spiders!
Image
JRsbugs
May 20, 2016 11:13 AM CST
Also Ruellia portellae .. the leaf backs are purple.

http://www.thetortoisetable.org.uk/site/plants_19.asp?catID=...

http://zimmerpflanzen.ws/ruellie-ruellia-portellae/

With a bad translation:

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http:...
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Image
plantladylin
May 20, 2016 1:35 PM CST
Flowers will tell for sure. My first thought wa something in the Gesneriaceae family like Gloxinella lindeniana
Another photo here: http://www.gesneriads.ca/gloxin25.htm

But it sure looks a lot like the photos of Ruellia that Janet linked to!
~ Eat, Sleep .... Play in the dirt ~
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
May 20, 2016 1:53 PM CST
Hi and Thank You! Thank You! to you all, by the looks it would seem to Ruellia portellae. I suppose it would be settled when it flowers. Also the german article shows it being multiplied by cuttings. Thanks specially Janet for that link! Thank You!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
Butterflies Birds Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Spiders!
Image
JRsbugs
May 20, 2016 2:18 PM CST
The German link I thought would be very useful for you Arturo.

The photo shows cuttings with and without a node rooting very well. Semi-ripe green cuttings taken with half an inch below a node is the best way to take cuttings of Fuchsia so I imagine this plant might respond well to that method, they tend to root at a node.

The rooted cuttings still have their apical growth, if it's soft and tender when taking a cutting it's a good idea to nip the new growth off which will help the cuttings to bush out and make side shoots. Maybe you could try doing one with nipping out the top growth, and leave it on another.

I hope you will update us on your rooting attempts!
Name: Arturo Tarak
Bariloche, Rio Negro, Argentin
hampartsum
May 20, 2016 2:44 PM CST
Thanks Janet, would you take cuttings grown indoors any time? Except natural lighting which is short now, I don't have extended lighting fixtures so perhaps it might be wiser to wait until beginning of spring.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
Butterflies Birds Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Spiders!
Image
JRsbugs
May 20, 2016 3:08 PM CST
The German link says it works to take cuttings in winter, keeping temperature at 16 to18C.

As you mention your climate is cold temperate, I imagine it might be similar to the UK. I found taking cuttings was best just before the main growing season, here that is mid to late May, or just before the onset of autumn, in early September. In the southern hemisphere it would obviously be the reverse.

Your plant isn't making flowers but it may decide to burst into bud, plants tend to not root so well when the plant is altering it's hormonal makeup in order to produce flowers. The main growing season here is June to August, a mere three months. We have had temperatures in July as low as 12C maximum with often only 14-16C and with little sun to go with it. The climate here is dominated by the Jet Stream so it depends on whether it has been pushed northwards meaning we get warm weather from the south, or if it gets pushed southwards meaning we get cold weather from the Arctic. It's unpredictable!

Yes, I would wait until spring or closer to summer to give it a fighting chance. I have used an electric bottom heated propagator which works wonders in a cold climate, it keeps the temperature at around 20C. Even if you used a propagator I would still wait until the correct growing season, this is a native of warm Brazil.

« Garden.org Homepage
« Back to the top
« Forums List
« Plant ID forum
You must first create a username and login before you can reply to this thread.

Today's site banner is by dirtdorphins and is called "Lilium 'Pink Perfection'"