Orchids forum: Might this be a Keiki?

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Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
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chris1948
May 29, 2016 8:49 PM CST
I've noticed this on one of my Phals the last few days. Could it be a Keiki forming?


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Chris
Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
The one constant in life is change
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dyzzypyxxy
May 29, 2016 8:59 PM CST
Yep, that's what it is. Way to grow, Chris. Now don't go getting too anxious about it. When it has roots about 2 or 3 inches long, you can think about separating it from the stem, and you can either plant it in its own pot or tuck it in with its mother. Or you can let it grow on the stem as long as the stem is green.

A friend of mine mounted one to a piece of cork, but left it attached to the stem until it had wrapped lots of roots around the cork and was well established. You could do that with a pot, too. Just 'pin' it down to a little pot and let it attach its roots to the pot and get well rooted then cut it.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
May 29, 2016 9:04 PM CST
Thanks for the verification Elaine. Not going to get anxious, in fact I'm just going to let it sit on there as you said until it gets roots. I'll have to send you some photos of how they all look now after being in the cooler greenhouse for about a month.
Chris
Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
The one constant in life is change
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dyzzypyxxy
May 29, 2016 9:13 PM CST
Meant to tree mail you, Chris. You should watch the Martin Motes video on Growing orchids in Florida. It's' located at the top of the Orchid forum menu. Even though it's aimed specifically at Florida growing, a lot of the information is generally applicable. Your climate right now is pretty close to ours, except a bit hotter and drier.

Dr. Motes is the guy I got all that info about watering and fertilizing from that I passed along to you. (well, not directly but from his books)
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
May 30, 2016 7:21 AM CST
Thanks Elaine, I'll take a look at it. As far as our climate for now you can take away the dry. It's been raining and/or storming pretty often around here. The humidity in the new orchid house hasn't been below 50% I think and the temps are running no higher than the mid 80s. It was 85 in the orchid house and 105 in the old greenhouse yesterday afternoon.
Chris
Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
The one constant in life is change
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dyzzypyxxy
May 30, 2016 8:57 AM CST
That's wonderful, Chris. I hope it carries on through the summer working for you.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
Name: Mike S
GEORGIA (Zone 7b)
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JMS54
Jun 3, 2016 9:51 AM CST
Hi Chris...That is pretty cool! I have never had a Phal. do that. But I fixed that problem. I got me some of the keiki hormone paste to use on a coupe of mine to see what happens. If it works I will share some pics. All my Phals are NOIDS, expect for my species Phals. The NOIDS I got from friends whoe did not know what to do with them after the flowers die off. Keep us updated.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
Jun 3, 2016 12:50 PM CST
Hi Mike, I'll keep you updated. All of mine are NOIDs except one that I bought on clearance at Lowe's. The rest I bought at Walmart last year in June They were leftover Mothers Day orchids.
Chris
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
Jun 20, 2016 6:28 PM CST
The Keiki is getting larger with more leaves but still no roots. Any idea on how long it may take for roots to develop if at all? Sorry the photo is a bit out of focus I got too close even in macro I guess I was too close to it.

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Chris
Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
The one constant in life is change
Cat Lover Master Gardener: Florida Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Herbs Orchids Birds Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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dyzzypyxxy
Jun 21, 2016 1:32 PM CST
Don't worry, Chris. It will put out some roots when it's ready. It looks really healthy and a nice green color on those leaves. Possibly if you ease back watering that plant for a few weeks that will push it to make roots - i.e. maybe mist/water every second day and let it dry out well? But I think it will make roots on its own eventually.

I'm guessing here, but you may have had all those orchids in light that was too bright for them and that's why they were such a pale color. Come fall, if you need to move them back to the other greenhouse be sure to do it gradually so they don't get burnt.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
Feb 19, 2017 7:23 PM CST
I started this thread back last June. Well it's now 8 months later and here's what I have now. The one with roots is the one shown in the original thread.

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Chris
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
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ctcarol
Feb 19, 2017 8:57 PM CST
For sure a kiki.
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
Feb 19, 2017 8:59 PM CST
Look closely Carol, you might just see 5 of them
Chris
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
Charter ATP Member Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Orchids Region: California Plant Identifier
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ctcarol
Feb 19, 2017 9:13 PM CST
Hmm. Some of those look like duplicates, but yeah, you do have multiple kikis. Smiling
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Texas Orchids Adeniums Cactus and Succulents Hibiscus
Dog Lover Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chris1948
Feb 19, 2017 9:14 PM CST
It's different views of the same plant Carol
Chris
Name: Elaine
South Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
The one constant in life is change
Cat Lover Master Gardener: Florida Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Herbs Orchids Birds Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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dyzzypyxxy
Feb 19, 2017 9:36 PM CST
That little Phal is reproducing like nobody's business, Chris. They sure must like you. There's a flower spike fighting for attention in there as well. Amazing.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
Charter ATP Member Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Orchids Region: California Plant Identifier
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ctcarol
Feb 19, 2017 9:37 PM CST
What ever. Let those roots get about 3" long before you separate them from the mother plant.

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